Both Hannity and O'Reilly simply cannot speak without accompanying and constant finger, hand, and arm movements and gestures. Now go watch a Hitler speech.

ADL and Foxman got caught with their pants down so to speak. I love that you added Jonah Goldberg's book cover to it. I believe the title has been changed, but that was the original title and cover put up by Amazon a while back. For the one guy to say he watches O'Reilly often and never noticed? I don't buy it at all.

I love that you added Jonah Goldberg's book cover to it. I believe the title has been changed, but that was the original title and cover put up by Amazon a while back.

No, that's the current cover. The title used to have "Hillary Clinton" in it - something like "Liberal Fascism: The Totalitarian Temptation from Mussolini to Hillary Clinton." They changed it to the current incarnation recently.

This book has been "forthcoming" for years and years now, so who knows what it will ultimately be if and when we are finally subjected to it.

For the one guy to say he watches O'Reilly often and never noticed? I don't buy it at all.

This is the point. I'm not citing some obscure comments made in passing. I'm describing tactics that they use continuously, in the largest venues. It's impossible not to be aware of them.

And for posting the follow-up. I'm sure the ADL will now say they would've given you a better answer on Tuesday if you hadn't chosen to share this conversation with your readers, but oh well.

I grew up thinking of the ADL as courageous. Now I wonder if I was always wrong, or if their silence is just another symptom of the poison in our current political climate.

You go on and on with your 'we should ensure their extermination but I'm not an antisemite' nonsense and then you're outraged that they're not in your corner hating all the other people you hate too? What kind of logic does that make? Why do they need to have your opinion expressed your way on your timetable?

@Persia:

I do give my admiration and support to entities that stick to their principle and mission. A prime example of this is the ACLU. Regardless of ideological differences, they go to the plate and defend even their most staunch critics.

Is the ADL in they same league? are they ready to stick to principles instead of convenience or (secret) agenda?

only time would tell. . .

Glenn, since I read your original post on the subject, I've been checking back for updates periodically. Glad to see that both organizations came back with responses, though I share your frustration that they haven't specifically condemned O'Reilly's regular trivialization of Nazism and the Holocaust on his show. Even watchdogs need watchdogs, and it's great to see you playing that role.

I must say that the right has again been clever in expropriating the term "fascism." Considering that these people are in the midst of a serious attempt to overthrow our democracy in favor of a particularly incompetent form of fascism, they have made it hard for liberals to call a spade a spade without seeming to be copy-catting. We have beat them to the punch in one case which is a great threat to them and needs to be pressed. They know full well that they have betrayed the country and pulled out all the stops to condemn the "betray us" theme. That is what will hurt them the most, as they so kindly showed us. It should be stressed at every opportunity. As for the Democrats, they are paralyzed by fear despite the new situation, and comfort themselves by telling themselves that they are somehow out-strategizing the Republicans rather than caving in to them. They are like the keyboard commandos, cowards pretending to be heroes. We should ignore their condemnations of the honest theme of Republican betrayal and make clear it is beginning to apply to them too.

I recall Rumsfeild in January calling American, the peaceable ones 'nazis'. It was an rather interesting tate. I have to profess, I been handed opinions were as the dems were called browncoats and the reb NAZIS. I felt so overwhemled.

and sometimes stilldo. ohwell...

kitty

Not any more.

ANNOUNCING THE "ROLL-OUT":

http://adl.org/PresRele/Mise_00/5124_00.htm

ADL Campaign Says 'No' to Nuclear Iran

New York, NY, September 5, 2007 … Over the next few weeks and months, the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) will roll out a public awareness and advocacy campaign aimed at focusing attention on the gathering threat of a nuclear-armed Iran to Israel, the Middle East and the world.

The ADL is still speaking out against language they perceive as defamatory. But that's not their primary focus anymore. Criticizing their pro-Iran-war coalition partners, such as Murdoch/Fox, would be counter to the ADL's new primary focus.

It's perfectly legitimate for an organization to switch its primary focus, but the organization could clarify the new situation by changing its name from ADL to PIWL (Pro-Iran-War League).

I guess their radar has some nasty holes in it given that it misses the biggest, loudest, most obnoxious blovinators on the planet...or could it be that their radar is not programmed to pick up right wing Nazi missiles?

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I was aware that his book-title had seen several incarnations, but I had not seen the blurb before and this piece stuck out:

"Jonah Goldberg reminds us that the original fascists were really on the left, and that liberals from Woodrow Wilson to FDR to Hillary Clinton have advocated policies and principles remarkably similar to those of Hitler's National Socialism"

Leaving aside whatever comparisons he wants to make, let's not miss this point:

FDR went to war against and ultimately destroyed Hitler's Germany. Yet it is clear that Goldberg nevertheless regards it as legitimate to compare their domestic policies.

Ergo, it must be just as legitimate to compare, I dunno, Bush and Ahmedinejad. It might only be a poor man's Cold War, but they don't like each other and by Goldberg's standard it is okay to compare, say their theocratic leanings, anti-empirical faith-based policy development and social conservatism.

It must be okay, right? You know, to write a book prefaced by "Liberal McLefty reminds us that the original religio-fascists were really on the right, and that conservatives from Ronald Reagan to George W Bush to Rick Santorum have advocated policies and principles remarkably similar to those of Khomeini's Iran".