Letters to the Editor
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Make a Movie called "The Bush II Presidency"
Glenn,
Surely there are enough intelligent knowledgeable people out there who care enough to make a movie detailing the government's "lawbreaking, torture and extremism". It would be a huge hit. It would be very profitable too, so what are we waiting for?
Your statements would make a greater impact if they were in a successful movie. Why isn't anyone doing it? What more does it take?
Just putting the facts one on top of the other would create a storm of controversy and action.
But it would have to be done scrupulously: no Michael Moore BS, no John Pilger BS, no Al Gore BS. It would have to be impeccable and non-debatable.
The truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth!
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kovie: regarding wanting it NOW
There is a cohort of so-called Lefty bloggers and posters who make a cottage industry of counseling "patience" and denouncing those who they claim demand "instant gratification" and want everything to change for the better NOW, instantly, or they will have a hissy fit. This cohort has been active since the Busheviks seized power, years ago now, and it's usually the same people time and again, fretting that if we lose "patience" (especially with complicit and do-nothing Dems who need to be brought along slowly and methodically) and if we keep demanding change for the better NOW, our cause -- whatever it may be -- will be lost. No one will take us "seriously," because we are all acting like "children" and yadda-yadda-yadda, and we can't "turn the ship around" so fast, can't be done, we need "patience!"
And it's a bunch of crap. Pure, unadulterated bullshit.
It's based on an utterly false premise. We are years into the Bushevik Autocracy now, and their power has been almost fully consolidated. Rs have been eagerly complicit; Dems have done nothing substantive to slow down the process, despite the clamor from the rabble, a clamor that has been persistent over the entire time.
The establishment of that Autocracy began instantly when the Busheviks seized power. Yes, they prepared for years in advance; but when they got the opportunity, they acted, without hesitation or looking back.
And through it all, certain elements, just who they are I'm not sure, but both Dem and R apparatchiks have been part of the process, have made it their obligation to tell the rabble to stop with their demands of "instant gratification," to pipe down with their "childish" little tantrums, to "understand" that it takes ever so long to move the ship of state.
Uh. No. No it doesn't. When a revolutionary force such as the Busheviks seize the government and are enabled by complicty, it doesn't take any time at all. The ship of state turns on a virtual dime. Surprising, isn't it?
And those who insist nothing can be done about it -- except over the very long haul -- are in effect, submitting to the Autocracy. I understand many will do that; it's a given. But they should be honest. It's not the rabble's demands for "instant gratification" they are struggling against. Because there is no such.
What do you suppose this struggle is really about?
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A Dreadful Price Yet To Be Paid For U.S. Foreign Policies
At some distant point in time our descendants will question how they are still fighting a perpetual war started by our generation. I would not want to be here when they seek to avenge this.
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Ché Pasa
There is a cohort of so-called Lefty bloggers and posters who make a cottage industry of counseling "patience" and denouncing those who they claim demand "instant gratification" and want everything to change for the better NOW, instantly, or they will have a hissy fit.
My read of the pertinent posts on this thread has been not that "nothing can be done about it," but that the things that can be done about it are pretty much being done, and that, yes, it takes time for the results of those things to pay off. Previous posts contain discussions of alternative strategies and tactics, ranging from "converting" to one of the other parties (Green, Libertarian, whatever) to armed rebellion(!). (Perhaps an act of self-immolation in front of the White House would engage the US populace and stimulate massive response? Just now, I doubt it.) Do you reasonably see how any of those things can achieve anything without years of additional time? The events of 1776 were preceded by years of deliberation, debate, preparation, and mobilization. I am open to reading - and acting upon - any alternative you suggest.
What do you suppose this struggle is really about?
Please, what is your answer to this?
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What, specifically, do we do to achieve "instant" results?
Gordon Ginsberg
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And Ché Pasa
No one here has invoked the "seriousness" concern, either.
Further, we are not saying leave it to the Dems to whom you refer. We are working to replace those Vichy scum now.
Solidarity,
Gordon Ginsberg -
Um, Gordon? Ahem...
The point of my continued nattering about those who constantly assert the need for patience, that we have to be in it for the long haul, and that what is being done is what must be done, is that no one is really disputing that.
I'll say it again: No one is disputing that.
But can you or kovie tell me who is demanding "instant gratification?" Who is it that demands Change NOW -- or else?
I'm sure there are some, but they are not here, at least not to my knowledge.
Furthermore, the notion that everything takes forever and we can't expect results after however long it has been is one of the most repellant arguments for the status quo in circulation. We most certainly can expect and demand results -- and the failures, multiple failures, constant failures -- of Our Dems to deliver those results or to even sensibly oppose the institution of Autocracy in this country should be a matter of constant fury and outrage.
It's a shameful argument that should have been retired long ago.
As I have repeatedly said, the changes the Busheviks have instituted in the whole concept of governance in the United States began immediately when they seized power, and they have been almost entirely consolidated during the seven years they have held that power. In the context of American History, that is no time at all. They set out to do it, and they have done it. Fast. It didn't take them forever. They have not let the Stately Majesty of Constitutional Processes stand in their way. They have just done it.
Thus, slow and steady change is not necessarily the only way to do it. The Busheviks seized power and have done their business. Surprise. It worked.
Now you may believe that so-called Progressives can't do it this way; it would be wrong and all that. What the Busheviks have done is wrong. We don't want to be like them. Etc. What we want to do is build a movement and make imperceptible incremental changes over say a generation or two or maybe longer, but we don't want to do anything precipitous...
Fooey.
Why not?