Letters to the Editor
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Question....
Considering the probability that a Democrats will have a one party rule in a year, why all the pessimism?
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Answer...
Question....
Considering the probability that a Democrats will have a one party rule in a year, why all the pessimism?
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Because the terrorists and the federalists will have won! We are doomed!
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My, my, my; this might be the most productive discussion at UT yet.
Although...
So many roiling notions about what went wrong and why and how we get out of this mess, if we are to get out of it.
I'm not convinced that Glenn's point here is correct, without some very strange contortions:
It isn't surprising or particularly revealing that there were not immediate consequences for these revelations. Our political system, by design, works slowly and methodically. The Founders purposely imposed significant hurdles to undertaking the most significant steps (such as criminal investigations of high Executive officials or impeachment) precisely to ensure that such actions were taken deliberatively, not impetuously. It took two-and-a-half years for the much simpler Watergate scandal to lead to what would have been the impeachment of Richard Nixon. The failure to impose immediate or even rapid consequences, while frustrating to many, would not really be a cause for legitimate complaint.
While it may not be intentional, the premise seems to be that because of the very stately pace at which matters of State transpire, one should, overall, be exceedingly patient with Our Government, for it takes time for things to be done, time for things to change, time for errors to be corrected, etc. And it is meant to be that way.
Well, yes, unless you're Bush or Cheney or any of their toadies and enablers, in which case, one needn't wait for the finely geared machine set up by Our Founders to get around to the business they wish to bring to the fore. Indeed, if you are them, the Mechanisms of the Constitution, and the Mechanisms of State can be simply set aside altogether, and the business the Busheviks want done can be willed into place.
That is how the Busheviks have been able to essentially overthrow the Republic and replace it with a radical Autocracy in a very few short years, it's how they have been able to get away with constant subversion of the Constitution, with appalling illegality, with contempt for the People at home and abroad, with constant warmongering, with most corrupt and dangerous regime in the history of the country.
They just DID it. And crushed any opposition that got in their way. Of which there was damned little anyway.
It didn't take them any time at all. They just DID it, and to hell with the Founders and their silly Stately Pace. They have never yet let That Goddamned Piece of Paper get in the way of what they want.
We can argue that this is wrong, and the perpetrators should be held to account all we want; and we may hope that eventually, when there is enough of an opposition in place in the various halls of Government, an accounting there will be.
Patience.
The problem is that they continue on their path regardless of what comeuppance they may -- or much more likely may not -- face in the by and bye.
They have radically altered the foundations of American governance, subverted and gutted the Constitution, engaged in continuing lawbreaking and corruption; all of this has happened very fast. At any point, there might have been a swift and sure intervention -- whether by other branches of the government or by the People themselves -- but there was none. Obviously, these matters do not have to transpire at some glacial pace over the generations.
If the System our Founders put in place cannot respond promptly to subversion and overthrow -- from within or without -- then we MUST question its utility. Since the Bushevik subversion has been ongoing, with little more than token resistance, dating from the lawless intervention on behalf of this outfit by an out of control Supreme Court, with the complicity of an already supine Congress (except for the outcries of the Black Caucus, ignored), we must question the utility of relying on the Founders' System for any relief or correction.
A case can be made that the Founders' System, that Constitution for which we rightly have such high regard, has been made into an historical artifact with no essential application any more.
A premise of Howard Dean's campaign for the Presidency in 2004 was "Restoration" -- of the Constitution first and foremost, of the standing of America among nations, of our foundational principles, of our values, and a restoration of a sense of hope, progress, justice, and renewal. This was the theme that ran through all his programs and prescriptions for what ailed the country. "I want my country back."
We saw how that worked out, didn't we? After all the hype for his campaign, he could barely break low double digits in the primaries, and John Kerry, who had been polling in the single digits before the votes were cast, ran away with the Democratic nomination, and "Restoration" was a forgotten theme.
Maybe there's nothing to "restore" any more, and it's time to think about starting fresh.
Just a thought.
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apologies for butting in last eve. Obnoxious!
Like Glenn says, 'ignore ants, pest, vulgar people, grey stink bugs shooting smells, and those who have fried the grey synapses'...or something like that.
If I seem 'out there' I am, but yea, hopping back here to say some "weird" compliment/.
kovie's, ya's gotta admit, are smooth, and always say a 10,ooo bushels full of red apples if you listen. The interchange of other ideas just give me, many times, that 'blown away' sensation.
"Happy in childhood, sad and grumpy in old age!" Arthur Schopenhauer addresses the various ages of life. We change. Like Retired Military Patriot, A.S., was a "jolly optimistic pessimist" and AS would say "shad up" to me. sorry cranky Schopenhauer. He's change his mood after he changed dirty socks and panties with William Penn (not W.T.)
Schopenhauer said that every one's unique character should be reaching out for the best. And at each chronological age, individually, and in a role within our local society. Then, AS thought, we are at our best- if we involve our Self. I agree.
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So, ya's kovie's, my apologies. Know once the mind tunes in here, the outburst of mine is a innocent rude: The Rude remarks are just an explosive yowza-joy. I was happy yesterday eve to not fall out of a apple tree. I did imbibe with a few smellier non-posters earlier and sipped some Wild Goose- Pumpkin Patch Ale. A ale harvest complex blend with a secret recipe.
Brewed with pumpkin pulp and spices, and it being Fall...I'd have felt like a 400 or 600 pound pumpkin. Flop. A spat upon the Earth.
The lib-dems branch broke from a rotten tree? Damn weak Limbs. Problem! Foggily hops. Good brew.
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So- a more gentle tone from libs in bibs- but continue on. Oil may be vital. To me, it is vital to be oiled within, but not too loose as a dead goose. Skip over the flop remarks I'll make, kovie. I was enjoying yoos. Just think, "shad up" and I get the message.
O, Free speech.
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There is Promethean thought. It is a glorious defiance. A cry out, a hideious howl, and it touches what may seem like despair. S/He (anyone) is convinced in advance what is NOW presently, will die (surely the GOP's will flop big time and the misrule too), but the struggle to resist the (ale too) ill is victory-in-Participation! The instinct is to overcome human cowardliness/weakness. It's to look into the roots. There is a bottomless abyss in nothingness. It can be Terror to look within one's own Fallen Self.
Affirm Life with one spirit. A person vindicates his/her own being.
But why?
To Live!
thanks kovie's.