Letters to the Editor
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You've got to be...
...fucking kidding me:
MILBANK: Petraeus --it's no accident he had a Latin name. It looked like he was the Roman general returning to the republic in his gold and purple toga, and they were celebrating him and slaying white bulls. They could not get enough of this man. And anybody's who's even critical of the war wouldn't dare criticize...
And you've got to be double fucking kidding me with this response...
MATTHEWS: Right.
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Anonypoopbag...(Self censored)
Doesn't deserve anymore replies. He/she/it is clearly and ijit and an azzole.
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Oh no!
— Sen. Robert Byrd, West Virginia = $834,211
— Sen. Claire McCaskill, Missouri = $382,531
— Sen. Jon Tester, Montana = $301,788
— Sen. Sherrod Brown, Ohio = $287,622
— Sen. Bob Casey, Pennsylvania = $160,780
--Anonymous
Them fucking foreigners!
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The pun "General Betray Us" did not originate with MoveOn.org
I first heard about this play on Petraeus's name about a month ago, before he came to Washington to give his "report" and before MoveOn.org took out its ad. The reference was to the fact that a lot of people in the Pentagon were getting mightily ticked off at Petraeus for towing Bush's line and not standing up for the welfare of the troops. THEY were the ones alluding to him contemptuously as "General Betray Us" and the people he was alleged to be betraying were our troops and those in the military establishment who are trying to preserve the Army and keep it from being totally broken by Bush.
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I do wish the timing of the MoveOn ad had been different--
I would've loved to see a full-page ad taking down Petraus's poorly-sourced charts and graphs.
I have mixed feelings overall about the ad-- it has become a tremendous distraction in MSM coverage. On the other hand, it might be the only strong dissent that's talked about at all, without it we might have been subjected only to the Serious Wisdom of The General and The Decider.
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@ anonymous
Did you ever ask yourself exactly why it is that we need 750,000 people perpetually poised for combat? This is the United States you're talking about, not the Third Reich. The people of this country don't exist for the sole purpose of seeing that the military gets everything it needs.
The cart before the horse, anonymous. Also unamerican. Also a self-fulfilling prophecy. When Rome becomes the legions, Rome disappears, and the legions find new masters to serve. Inevitably, Romans become slaves.
Look around you. We're grateful for cops and firemen, but we certainly don't want them running city hall. Likewise with soldiers. As providers of a valued service, one which often involves terrible sacrifices by both themselves and their families, they should be honored. As a culture of their own, one which claims the right to dominate the culture they sprang from, they've always been abject failures.
That's why General Petraeus should be driven out of the town square by the citizens he's attempted to turn into cannon fodder, and forced to live by peddling his medals at the side of the road.
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Reason number 8,470...
why we should ignore all "Anonymous" posters:
"Perhaps I should say 'allegedly'..."
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...."they could not get enough of this man"
MILBANK: Petraeus --it's no accident he had a Latin name. It looked like he was the Roman general returning to the republic in his gold and purple toga, and they were celebrating him and slaying white bulls. They could not get enough of this man. And anybody's who's even critical of the war wouldn't dare criticize...
Not only am I disappointed in Milbank (one of the more astute in my opinion) but it was the press themselves who "could not get enough of this man". The public was either barely paying attention or were deeply cynical of anything Petraeus had to say in the first place.
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The Press and Propaganda
If neither the Mainstream Media nor the We Report; You Decide crowd can do anything more than argue about the impact of political advertising on the ultimate American advertising machine - television (Jerry Della Femina? Geez!); how is it that a majority of the great unwashed public are so at odds with the pundits?
I'd count it as a win-win if the disconnect between what polls show and what pundits focus on holds up.
It means enough people see through the rank propaganda, i.e. dueling ads, that is fueling this war. They haven't forgotten the 2006 vote.
Do the Washington pundits serve the powers that be or the people?
Roll, people.
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War Job, Military Cuts, Jebbie Wrong
Casual_observer,
Nope...sorry. I am still in and will be until I wish to retire. I already have over 20 years in but I'm staying becasue these young guys need someone to help train them to stay alive.
Paul Dirks,
Granted...but unfortunately, we in the military do what we are told. I've never believed the military was needed to hold the ground but we've never had a say-so in that. And KNOWING that, I knew eventually we would have to do something like this and that we would have insufficient personnel to do it.
Retired Military Patriot,
Your logic is faulty. You suggest we don't need a large military to deal with terrorist. That we could "talk and negotiate with our adversaries as we are now doing with North Korea" yet this has been tried before with little or no lasting results. Terrorist do NOT want to talk...they want their way and will do whatever it takes to get the job done. Negotiating with a country like North Korea is possible because they are localized in one area...they KNOW if they don't talk to us, we know where to find them ALL. Terrorists know we can't get them all unless we check every single country...which realistically speaking cannot be done.
As for leaving Iraq, if you have a good plan to do so which would not leave devastation and death everywhere, I sure would like to hear it.
We didn’t need an overly large force to go after terrorists. And if we had announced a plan to reduce our presence after the first Gulf War by recognizing the actual threat posed by Saddam, we wouldn’t have poured as much fuel on OBL’s jihad.
Overwhelming deterrence is not needed for a new, less confrontational mission, especially if we .
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Last letter
Sorry all, had to cut and paste to answer you all...the last part was part of another's email.
My mistake.