A Quote from GARY KAMIA'S review of 2 books and 1 film on Stalingrad. : MARCH 28, 2001

(emphasis and notes mine)

[Hitler 'stays the course', --- the eastern front 6th army is destroyed ]

"It went on for close to six months, turned a large city into rubble and left over a million men dead. I also remembered from William L. Shirer's biography that it was Hitler who was responsible for trapping his troops in the ruined city in the heart of winter. The German 6th Army was surrounded, but it still might have been able to break out -- if the Fuhrer had given the order. But obsessed with the symbolism of the struggle over a city named after Stalin, and willing to sacrifice a quarter of a million men to make the point that "Where the soldier of Germany sets foot, there he remains!" Hitler refused. Those German troops who were not slaughtered by the Russians or killed by starvation, cold or disease finally surrendered: 95 percent of them died as well."

They will have to rewrite the history books. The statistics are somewhat mixed by gender and nationaliy, but

total Iraq deaths approaching 1 million is in the same hell as Stalingrad. The 'worst president ever' may

rival the lunatic fuhrer himself, and people like the Kagans parroting macho inanities, match the German

General Staff's staggering, insane incompetence on the eastern front: The above shows that it was Hitler

'staying the course' for his petty pride and delusions. (sound familliar? is similar?) which destroyed the

6th army. The General Staff was obeying his orders. Memories conflict with emotions (neither the Russians

nor we, at the time restrained our satisfaction) . My point is that the lunatic delusions and petty paranoia

caused a head of state to stubbornly massacre his own army to support his own ego

You may say what difference, Hitler was mad anyway: Will we be one day "written off" as Iraquis

are and as the 6th army was --- and ,as it sometimes seems, our troops, our allies have been?

Will Iran be bombed to dust no matter how many are driven to a 'zimbabweian' destruction.

How much pain do you want to accept to support George Bush's ego and the Kagan's paycheques?

I love, love, love, love, love that you publish the pictures of these pro war chickenhawks pundits. A picture truly is worth a thousand words!!! Oh the machismo is just oozing from the neo-con cabal!

Classic, just Classic.

Fat, lazy cowardly jews, they only care about Isreal

I will accept your silence as acquiescence. To explain what you already have realized, Glenn explicitly said that one must not have military experience to comment on the military:

It is true, as I've argued many times, that all Americans - those who served and those who haven't -- have the right and even obligation to form opinions about whether we ought to go to war. And I reject the idea that there is something inherently wrong about advocating a war without serving in it (the vast, vast majority of the country did that with Afghanistan, and with the 1991 Persian Gulf War, for instance).

Glenn, however, feels there are some decisions regarding the military that might require intimate knowledge of military practices, as with any endeavor. Glenn points to Webb as one who has such military experience, so his opinions on troop deployments and adequate leave might be more relevant than yours or mine.

But when it comes to arguments about how much strain troops can endure in combat, one's experience in war is absolutely relevant to whether the argument should be given more weight.

That seems reasonable. I'm sure there are some things in your profession upon which you are more fitting to opine than those not.

You, of course, have realized all this and instead of admitting your intellectual dishonesty have decided to duck. Accordingly, presuming your moniker is indication of your approximation to truthfulness, I hereby grant you another tilda.

Congratulations, (~~~~~).

Troops: support for republicans is support for the Kagan policy of war without end, war without relief. I understand that for lifestyle reasons, Republicans are generally more appealing to folks in the military, but take a good hard look at the people who take cover behind you and take credit for your hard work, bravery and medals.

Liberals, soldiers, everyone--we need to call out these Kagans, republicans and necoons for what they are: cowardly chickenhawks and frilly fightin' keyboardists.

It's hard to think of quick and interesting analogies of what the right wing chickenhawk warmongers would be in policing or fire-fighting. You can come up with them, but they end up being paragraphs long and boring and by that point either you've gotten the poing or you never will.

"The river's rising!!! Everybody down to the levee to make sandbags, immediately!"

"Why aren't I down there? Oh... well... see, I'm helping with my megaphone. Watch!"

"Hurry up, dammit! To the levee! This is an emergency! Get your ass down there before my mansion gets flooded, what the hell's the matter with you?"

What on earth is the matter with all these lazy soldiers? According to the Kagans and Co. it seems they just do not want to win this war or they would just do it! Now it will be the soldiers fault that Bush lost his "war." A few weeks back it was the Iraqs who were responsible for not meeting the thoughtfully set "benchmarks." The feet on the ground get all these good orders, "Win the war, Look for WMDs, Stay the course, Spread democracy, Crush the insurgents, Kill N°2 Al Qaida several times, Protect Bagdad, Destroy Fallugah, Re-protect Bagdad, and now, go Win the war again.

How ungrateful can these soldiers get? The administration gives them all these lovely missions and they want more time with their families. They sound like members of the government who work night and day to come up with clear easily attainable victories and just because the temperature is high and they are being attacked and blown up at every crossing they ignore our industrious journalists, who from afar are able to see and direct what needs to be don.,

Bad naughty soldiers and encouraged by Senator Webb. That is the icing on the cake.