Letters to the Editor
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War culture
You got it all wrong. The american people (Congress) should not provide ANY MORE funds until the troops win or come home.
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What was your MOS, Tilde Boy?
What's on your DD214?
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Bee herder...
I read all that and you are full of shit as has been well documented. You are wrong about the constitution too as has been shown also.
Webb's bill presents a simple logistics problem. Shit, even I could write the code.
It is the rules that matter not "commander and chief
part.
You knew that though didn't you?
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"personality attributes" and photographs
Nonetheless, I have written many, many times before about the personality types who are warmongers and how the relationship between their personality attributes and their twisted policies. I will definitely continue to do so. – GlennGreenwald
This is what our troll quoted when condemning Glenn about his use of photos, but you’ll notice that Glenn didn’t say “physical attributes,” he said “personality” attributes. Those are two completely different things.
You can be fit, trim and handsome and still have an “authoritarian personality” that has been discussed (and condemned) so much on this blog. An attractive person can espouse very "ugly" authoritarian ideas, and in doing so expose their "personality type."
When Glenn posts photos of all of these war-mongering personalities, it becomes embarrassingly obvious that many of them are not exactly the macho “warriors” that their “manly” rhetoric would have us believe.
If having “muscles” and being able to bench press huge amounts of weight is the qualification for advising us on foreign policy, perhaps we should be listening to the inmates, er, excuse me, “graduates” of the Charm School of Joliet, rather than the American Enterprise Institute.
I don’t care whether someone is skinny, fat, or unattractive to look at; what matters most, and what’s important is the “personality attributes” that Glenn spoke of.
Sometimes you can tell that by how someone looks, and other times, you can be very surprised. It’s Kagan’s rhetoric: his words, his advice, his policies (and their inherent contradictions and hypocrisy) – that exposes his “personality traits” - not his photo.
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By the way ...
I have lived a brutal deployment schedule, both before 9/11 and after. I know how hard it is. And I'd love nothing more than to allow everyone to spend more time at home, refreshing, retraining, etc.
But I loathe the idea of 535 showboating congressmen setting military personnel policy. That's why we have one head-motherfucker-in-charge, who then delegates his authority to the various service heads, who delegate to their generals/admirals, etc., down the line. Yeah, it's fucked up at times, but waaaay better than the alternative.
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To those who support beating the troops down
This is an excerpt of what Senator Webb read before the Senate on July 10th:
"They wrote me today. I’ll read portions of this letter: “On behalf of the 368,000 members of the Military Officers Association, I am writing to express our support for your amendment. The MOAA is very concerned that steps must be taken to protect the most precious military asset, all volunteer force, for having to bear such a disproportionate share of wartime sacrifice.” If we are not better stewards of our troops – this is the president of the MOAA, Vice Admiral Ryan, United States Navy Retired, saying this “if we are not better stewards of our troops and their families in the future than we have been in the recent past, we believe strongly we will be putting the all volunteer force at unacceptable risk.” I would submit to the President and this body that this is not the kind of a statement that would be made from a group of 368,000 military officers unless they believed in the constitutionality and the propriety of what we are attempting to do."
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"Hornet Driver" just gets worse and worse.
Commander in chief. The guy who runs the show day-to-day. Who tells units where to go, what to do, when to do it, etc.
Please tell me where I'm wrong?
"Commander in Chief", not "Absolute Master and Dictator".
The Constitution of the United States gives primacy to the Congress to dictate rules and regulations for the military. The President, as Commander in Chief, is as obligated to operate within those parameters as the Services are to obey the UCMJ.
At least that's how its supposed to work. Then again, ideally we wouldn't have a messianic headcase sitting in the Oval Office right now.
Best eject now, before you crash and burn.
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Back up your assertion or clarify. That will make it so that one can respond.
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I think you are implying that Glenn claims only active or retired military can comment on military matters. If so, can you show where he makes that claim?
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Tilde Boy is Googling right now, so please be patient.
He's furiously trying to find out what an MOS is, and what a DD214 is. He'll be back in a few minutes.
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Best pull out of your dive, Hornet Driver.
But I loathe the idea of 535 showboating congressmen setting military personnel policy.
Sadly, that's how the Constitution (which you took an oath to uphold, remember) is written. Congress is empowered to impose whatever rules it sees fit or necessary upon the conduct and use of the armed forces. The President is bound to work within those parameters.
In any case, how does mandating servicemembers be treated as human beings constitute "showboating"? Especially given the photo-op antics the Commander in Chief has undertaken using the Services over the last four years?
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@Iokannan in the Well
In any case, how does mandating servicemembers be treated as human beings constitute "showboating"?
Self-centered pricks often assume that other people are only nice because they're getting something out of it. Conversely, they assume that spiteful, greedy people are "just being honest."
Not saying this is Hornet's ish, but I do think it has something to do with the perceived "seriousness" of the neocons.
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Tilde probably thinks...
MOS means Mantra On Signal
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Come on Tilde Boy! Hornet Driver could tell you his MOS in two seconds flat.
He could probably recite his DD214 in less than a minute.
Aw hell, go for it Hornet Man.
Tilde Boy never served. That's why he suddenly disappeared from the conversation.
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hmm.
Do you suppose Fred believes that the Army and Marine Corp currently do not keep track of were they deploy their units? Or for how long?
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That pesky Constitution
Empower the Congress (and only the Congress)
To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;
To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;
To provide and maintain a Navy;
To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;
To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;
To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline
prescribed by Congress;
To put it in terms that might be more familiar to our trolls: The Army serves at the pleasure of the Congress and the President in his role as CinC also answers to a Congress that is free to order him to stand down. That they don't have the balls to do so is a separate problem but if your going to swear an oath to defend the Constitution perhaps you should read it first.