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Monday, August 27, 2007 12:00 AM

The Democrats' responsibility in the wake of Gonzales' resignation

Senate Democrats must commit themselves to blocking any and all nominees until Bush nominates someone whose independence and integrity are beyond reproach.

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Tuesday, August 28, 2007 04:23 AM

dems responsibility for naming new AG.

First of all up-front I'm a Democrat that hopes for the day that Bush and Co. will be held fully responsible for their war crimes.Mr. Greenwald you can spell it out shout it out but the Democratic Party does not know how to govern,period.Excuses aplenty but the right outcme da nada.jshadenfruede.

Tuesday, August 28, 2007 04:26 AM

@ Mr. versen

2B. Either you did this innocently, or you meant to misrepresent what I wrote. Given the lack of elipses,I'm inclined to believe the latter.

I didn't do it "innocently" or to "misrepresent what you wrote". I quoted only a portion of what your wrote as a matter of space saving. I saw no necessity to quote more of it. The remainder of your quote wasn't buried in the black hole of time and space. The remainder of your quote was a short scroll away. I must say, these accusations of deceit grow tiresome.

Tuesday, August 28, 2007 07:55 AM

the Bush Bubble and the Media's responsibilty

Bush’s statement, tribute and characterization of the Gonzales affair after Gonzales’ announcement of his ‘conclusion’ of service, is astonishingly obtuse. He states that Gonzales’ good name was dragged 'through the mud' for political reasons implying that it was a political hit while blatantly ignoring that Congress is attempting to investigate Gonzales’ and Rove’s politicization of appointments and prosecutions by DOJ. And once again I wonder why the MSM doesn't challenge Bush’s attempt to spin himself and his administration as the victims here.

Bush I, the father, was ridiculed for living in a bubble because he didn’t know the price of a loaf of bread while the son gets a pass from the press when he asserts that Gonzales was 'dragged through the mud' by Democrats. A few weeks ago when Bush commuted the prison sentence of his own aide: Scooter Libby. Although it was rarely mentioned in the MSM, Libby held two official positions in the Bush administration while he was outing a CIA agent; he was an Assistant to the President and the Vice-President’s Chief of Staff and the press didn’t question the dubious propriety of his commutation. It seems to me that if Bush truly respected the rule of law he would have recused himself due to Libby’s having been an aide.

The bubble of isolation Bush II inhabits rivals that of Richard Nixon’s at the height of Watergate and the MSM press doesn’t seem to have a clue.

Tuesday, August 28, 2007 12:14 PM

Wondering & wondering

Dems should start considering an oversight panel on all the escaped people from this Administration, which are on the loose now, and very likely to continue on their **patriotic** actions from within - are we going to wake up into the termite's nest..?? a very scary thought

Tuesday, August 28, 2007 12:53 PM

re re fein?

sysprog, I've been following Bruce Fein's criticism of the administration and his calls for impeachment. I agree that he's probably too independent even to be considered. Too bad, because we could be confident that this ultra-conservative would uphold the rule of law. Obviously no one will be considered who doesn't have impeccable Republican credentials (which Fein has)—but we also need someone who deeply knows and understands and respects the Constitution (which Fein does).

Tuesday, August 28, 2007 02:20 PM

Falsehood --

You write:

"Democrats . . . have offered up little other than one failure after the next since taking power in January . . . ."

I'm fed up with the gratuitous bashing of Democrats -- especially when based upon either ignorance of the actual facts, or convenient forgetting of them. The House Democrats have fulfilled every commitment they made, including ethics reform. (You expect perfect? Die and go to Heaven -- if the latter exists.) Whatever of those did not pass in the Senate were the victims of the foot-dragging Republicans. Face it: the Democratic "majority" in the Senate is essentially illusion.

Tuesday, August 28, 2007 02:31 PM

Glenn's Answer

What Glenn thinks is 'more effective than marching in the streets' is exactly what he does . Furthermore, he explicitly asserts this to be true for him personally, and reserves his argumentative sarcasm for those who come to his blog to whine or wail about the hopelessness of it all, or some such other nonsense. I feel that maybe some valid questions or comments- about 'most effective' or 'only effective' tactics in combating the absurd things Glenn exposes in our government and culture- get lost in this format. At least originally some of these comments and questions are appropriate, but they often get rephrased and falsely characterized over and over until the original argument is lost- this is natural to debate, and amplified by the many voices weighing in, and on and on...

Tuesday, August 28, 2007 08:58 PM

Not ready to throw in the towel..

I’m late to the party here and I usually try to read all of the letters before posting. I only got through about the first ten pages when I saw that much of the back and forth was between Glenn and posters who, through some kind of prescience or just plain battle fatigue, seem to think the outcome is certain and that it will be bad. Perhaps they’re right.

I realize it’s hard to rationalize Democrats and Responsibility in the same sentence in the light of recent past performance; but throwing up our hands and taking solace in being able to say “I told you so” doesn’t seem to be the answer. I also don’t believe that most of those with whom Glenn has had these exchanges believe in their hearts that this is hopeless. I am certainly not prepared to accept that.

So what else can we do?

I haven’t read all of the posts so I may be repeating others here; but for starters we can certainly all advise our congressional representation of our expectations. The stakes are certainly high enough to at least be on the record with what we think is the right thing to do. A good reference point for the Democratic congress would be to share Glenn’s article with them and let them know that his recommendations regarding their responsibility should be their highest current priority. They should also be advised to prepare for a protracted fight with attendant accusations of being “obstructionist” while the AG position remains unfilled.

That means also being PREPARED to view any such tactics by Bush and his other enablers/apologists of either party in congress as opportunities to actually raise the awareness of the public to what is actually going on at DOJ and elsewhere in this government. Surely no one here who is upset at the change the country is undergoing, seemingly without opposition, doubts that it’s at least partially attributable to failure of the public to fully comprehend what is actually going on. The effect of relentless fear-mongering certainly has an impact on thoughtful reflection. If they do understand and have acquiesced, then it IS truly hopeless. If not, then they need to be made to understand. There is NO excuse for acquiescence, in my opinion, for those who DO understand. Impeachment proceedings could have provided a forum to present these matters to the public for judgment. That option is now off the table for Gonzales; but the issues are no less relevant for consideration in the nomination process for any successor.

The list of issues should be bundled into the questions at any hearing(s) and pounded on without mercy. When the accusations of obstructionism are inevitably raised, the litany of abuses and their consequences to the Constitution should be exposed again and again and again, if necessary. Perhaps Democrats can be persuaded to take the risk of possibly boring the public and being excoriated by these experts at obfuscation for the potential payoff of an “AHA” moment for their distracted and uninformed constituents. See who blinks first. I don’t think this administration really wants an ongoing discussion about why an appropriate replacement for this fraudulent AG impersonator is now so critical. Simply accepting a "forgone conclusion" is fraught with insidious potential for everything the nation claims to value if the wrong person is confirmed without a fight.

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