Letters to the Editor
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General strike
Earlier on the thread, somebody suggested a general strike or, alternatively, a tax protest, to draw attention to the progressive agenda.
I would like to see this happen. I'm curious whether anybody would notice that progressives were missing work or not paying their taxes. I think there is a low probability of such anybody taking note other than state-college freshmen stuck in Comp 101, who will appreciate the free period.
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Stop! You're BOTH Right!
mimo70:
Off topic, but kind of related, was Lou Dobbs saying that Bob Murray, co-owner of Crandall Canyon Mine Company, was "his kind of guy" after hearing him speak for the first time on the first day of the Mine tragedy. I was stunned, because it was clear to me that Murray was a bully who was covering his behind. Guess who was right.
Lou Dobbs was right! A bully covering his behind is his kind of guy.
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gc_wall
Americans do not want their democracy taken from them.
The radical right could not have gotten so far as they have unless a lot of Americans do want 'their democracy' taken away from them:
Democracy, which has grown up in the last three hundred years, represents, with its emphasis upon individual responsibility and individual actions, the most difficult societal system, requiring a definite human maturity. Totalitarianism and especially fascism can in many ways be regarded as an escape from this difficulty into the irresponsibility of following a leader who deprives the people of their liberty and their maturity but promises them 'security' and 'economic progress'. Hence the celebration and promotion of immaturity and self-gratification in the media and entertainment industries, and in U.S. culture in general.
Neoconservative Totalitarianism
You cannot call a government "democracy" which consistently acts in favor of corporations against the people, of militarism against peace, of lies against truth, and makes a business out of rationalizations for armed robbery and mass murder.
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8 Years later
I should ask if many of these same pundits who are touting Congress' lousy numbers were railing against the investigations into the Clinton WH being a waste of time also. More likely they were egging it on, especially with Clinton lying about the BJ from Monica, and the resulting impeachment. Evidently the sexual habits of the President are more important to these pundits than the trashing of the Constitution.
It is either that, or their reporting is emerging from a time capsule 8 years later.
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Okay, let's see
We're citing one poll that's a year old, another that's nearly six months old, and ONE SINGLE POLL that's current.
Yeah, them's good, current facts for you!
He then has the balls to say,
"Think about how devoid of intellectual integrity a person must be in order to run around pronouncing that "Americans believe X" or "Americans dislike Y" without engaging in the slightest efforts first to determine if what they are saying is true."
Hello, Mr. Pot? Kettle calling!
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@Pumpkinator, Huh?
And you're defending pundits who present no polls or facts. Some defense
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Hey, Retired Military Patriot
(whatever that is)
Where's your outrage over someone pretending to be "scientific" while citing outdated polls (one taken well before the 2006 election, no less!) and relying, really, on only a single poll?
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Hey and goodbye
I think your brain is too mushy from eating too many pumpkins for me to spend any more time on A USELESS DISCUSSION.
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... A USELESS DISCUSSION.
The inevitable response of someone who has no answer.
Don't let the door hit ya' where the good Lord split ya'!
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@dothehop
By Jove! You've got it! The pundits (and our new friend the pumpkinator) think that recent polls are too raw and unripe.
So they're relying on vintage, well aged, polls from 1998 and 1999, showing that most Americans want fewer subpoenas and less investigation.
"We will sell no poll before its time."
Who knows, 2006 and 2007 polls favoring investigations of the White House may be prized vintages, when the pundits uncork them in 2009 and 2010.
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@RMP
You're absolutely right, about authenticity.
Since you're from military, I would like to hear your thoughts about my first point, I came to it overnight, but it's been bubbling for a long time. The Democrats are cowering over what actually isn't a series of small bursts of courage, but instead a very large burst of very difficult courage: to become the first government of country that has empire-like influence over the world and decide that there's such a thing as too much military might, and too many secrets. Most times this is forced on an empire in decline by "barbarians at the gate", properly done, doesn't it seem as if the U.S. might have a unique opportunity to renounce the fist and lead the world of man away from war?
I mean, couldn't the Democrats draw strength from the good that could come of curtailing the pursuit of endlessly mighty force? Maybe their purpose is to follow the forefathers into history, the forefathers brought the Enlightenment, these people could bring peace?
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oh, bur-ruth-errr!
doesn't it seem as if the U.S. might have a unique opportunity to renounce the fist and lead the world of man away from war?
Yeah, and the al-Qaida types will just lay down their weapons and sing "Kumbaya" with the eternally silly liberals who claim to be "reality-based."
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And what pray tell
Is an Al-Qaeda type?
Cause I'd hate to think that you were overgeneralizing and failing to differentiate actual enemies with imagined ones.
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Terminal Stupidity
Pumpkinator:
We're citing one poll that's a year old, another that's nearly six months old, and ONE SINGLE POLL that's current.
Yeah, them's good, current facts for you!
It's called a trend.
He then has the balls to say,
"Think about how devoid of intellectual integrity a person must be in order to run around pronouncing that "Americans believe X" or "Americans dislike Y" without engaging in the slightest efforts first to determine if what they are saying is true."
Hello, Mr. Pot? Kettle calling!
Hello? 3 Polls vs. 0 Polls.
You're Mr. Pot on steriods.
Or Mr. Steroids on pot.
Whatever.
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Sorry, Paul Rosenberg ...
... but of key import in polls is what has happened since the last poll was taken. A hell of a lot, including frivolous Dem investigations, have happened since two of the three polls were taken, making their results moot.
Be careful when you weigh in on a topic you know nothing about.