Letters to the Editor
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Extremes?
Instead of worrying so much about 'Islamic extremism', people should be concerned about the rise of 'christian extremism' in America.
From eliminating Rove v Wade to eliminating access to birth control and 'fact based' scientific research and gutting funding of most art that isn't dogs on velvet or depictions of Jesus or some other religious event, the 'religious right' (oxymoron like 'Moral Majority') seeks to change America in profound and dangerous way.
I read an article about the Texas 'justice' system yesterday and its penchant for executing accused and 'convicted' criminals.
Texas has the perfect judicial system the article said. Perfect for executions that is.
The issues with 'Islamic extremism' perhaps spawned the 'christian extremism' that seeks to sweep our nation, or perhaps the leaders of the 'christian extremism' movement needed a convenient straw man to present as a threat to build its case for existing.
Either way, extremism isn't a good thing. Christian or Islamic.
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Shooter's a woman.
Let it be understood by one and all that Mona and I ceased any conversation after I pointed out that a demonstration in the yard of a suicidal school administrator, instrumental in the subsequent death - was not right wingers, but actually members of a school union demonstrating for better treatment.
Mona didn't do her homework, got called on it, was embarrassed, and in the manner of women everywhere, will never let it go. So be it.--Shooter242
Mona mentions that she no longer engages you in conversation, doesn't detail any specifics, then you feel the need to expand on it, then you say women can't let go......
So, Shooter, still using tampons? Or are you post-menopausal, 'cause you sure sound like you're PMSing to me.
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The Islamists
are the bought and paid for Trojan Horse leading to the US eventually succumbing to internationalist fascism. The money folks in Europe, the ones not beholden to any nation, desire for the planet to be completely subdued. Surveillance and tracking technology will finally make the whole planet the beyond-1984 police state they have been dreaming about for generations. Make no mistake, most people on this planet are too stupid to see this for what it actually is, so it WILL come to pass, the only question being "HOW SOON?".
And people wonder why I have no faith in humanity.
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This thread, distilled
Glenn: Right wingers have made up and exaggerated the threat of Islamists taking over America.
Glenn's Army: Yeah, right on, Glenn! Bush and Republicans are evil! Hey, everyone, what do you take in your coffee? [By the way, this response is invariant, no matter what Glenn's topic or his take on it is.]
Cold Water: Um, Glenn is setting up a straw man to attack Republicans. No one is looking for an invasion fleet; there are some very valid threats from Islam.
Glenn's Army: [Horrified gasps.] You bigot! Christians are just as bad as Muslims. Muslims are great people, which is not to say that Christians are great people. Where is your evidence?
Cold Water: Muslim terrorism is one aspect, and there is plenty of evidence for that of course. There is also a significant body of evidence that Muslims have, for example, chilled free speech throughout the West.
Better Than All of You: Free speech has definitely been chilled by Muslims.
Glenn's Army: The evidence is made up! You are bigots! McVeigh was a Christian! Nazis are Christian! I'm waving my hands, can't you see that!
Cold Water: Tell me, then, why the cartoons were published so sparsely by Western newspapers, magazines, etc
Glenn's Army: Um...
Late Joiner: Right wingers have made up and exaggerated the threat of Islamists taking over America.
Glenn's Army: Yeah, right on, Glenn and Late Joiner! Bush and Republicans are evil! Hey, everyone, what do you take in your coffee?
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The Boy, distilled
GB: Muslims are terrible...I'm afraid, you should be too or you're un-American...that single issue justifies any/all acts by wunnerful govmint...
Everybody else: Yawn.
If you can't get it out of reverse, try turning off the ignition.
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A few points GB has overlooked
1) Golden Boy begins with a conclusion, then manufactures evidence to support it.
2) Golden Boy has only one agenda -- that Islam represents a unique and insidious evil -- and no interest whatever in any evidence to the contrary.
3) Golden Boy's monomania is perfunctory and therefore suspiciously doctrinaire. He counsels both cowardice and bigotry, claiming for both the status of revelation. As a prophet, he is false; as a concerned citizen, he is carrying too much obvious baggage to be believable.
4) No one with any sense will take Golden Boy at his word, yet he persists.
5) Golden Boy should find another job.
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O Pedinska. Help me vow to remain silent. You keep speaking, please?
I don't know why Ralph Waldo Emerson said, "Men menstruate too or what essay? O, oats. Or, what kind of potato and horseradish he must have ate when he wrote that?
I am- NO gonna' stick my little pinkie in my mouth and try to make any sense of what RWE meant. I think I have bled from the heart, but I haven't needed a Tampon..
...I need to gaze at the moon to rid me of a moonstruck sense we all will be okay if we don't buy a marital license and work to prevent martial or marital laws? huh.
I don't know a damn thing about anything?
I know I need to Not read blogs for awhile.
I am- beginning to swoon and love too much.
I just hope I don't follow the silver path.
I am going to watch seagulls by day, and watch the moon by night.
Many a rambling person drowned following the silver and gold pathway and was lost at sea.
Not a Golden Boy gutter ditch.
I'll try to not turn this machine on again or speak "foolishly."
You can be the wise/idiot, fool/sage, or anything you please.
Please just help me to vow to "Shutoff" the White Collar Crime Creeps from my mind for awhile? huh. Never mind. God's Nature Bless You.
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The REAL Way it Goes When You're Trying to "Debate" with Delusional Islamophobes...
Glenn: Right wingers have exaggerated the threat of Islamists taking over America.
Rational People: Absolutely. We have more to fear from Christian fascism, the Bush administration, and their policies.
Delusional Islamophobe: But wait! There's a show on my local cable station and it's in...ARABIC. Clearly, they're coming to get us. They sell falafel at the Safeway. Barak Obama's middle name is Hussein. The Muslims are definitely ready to take over.
Rational People: Ummm...you know, this doesn't exactly explain how you think that the Muslims are about to take over.
Delusional Islamophobe: Well, explain to me exactly why we haven't declared war on Tunisia then. It's a MUSLIM country. If America is not practically under the thumb of Islam, then why.haven't.we.invaded.Tunisia? Huh? Huh? No one call explain THIS one, can they? Huh?
Rational People: Perhaps Tunisia hasn't done anything to America and doesn't warrant invasion.
Delusional Islamophobe: Well, talk to me when your wife and daughter is wearing a burkha and you're watching Wheel of Torture instead of Wheel of Fortune on television, then, which is clearly what you want. As it says in Sura #43, "We shall subjugate all the heathens and make them sing the praises of hummus." Doesn't that make it obvious what the plans are?
Rational People: It's not quite clear how the Muslims will be taking over America. Perhaps you can explain?
Delusional Islamophobe: Creeping Islam is ipso facto a fortiori, ad naseum, and anyone who doesn't recognize that is clearly has a tabula rasa conscience and sense of national pride.
Rational People: We recognize that a small minority of Muslims are radicalized terrorists, but that does not reflect all of Islam, nor does it present the threat that the neocons suggest
Delusional Islamophobe: There are laws against hate speech, but THEY APPLY TO PEOPLE WHO ARE MUSLIM TOO. This is CLEAR ergo propter hoc evidence that we are we are not free to speak anymore in America. If I can't say "Kill all the Muslims," then I'm not a free American, and the influence of Shar'ia is already upon us!!
Rational People: Actually, the idea of democracy is that laws should apply equally to everyone.
Delusional Islamophobe: I would expect Glenn's Army to say that. What about the cartoons, I ask. WHAT ABOUT THE CARTOONS? No one will answer me that one, will they.
Rational People: Uh, Delusional, we've actually answered it about twenty times in the thread already. The failure of the American media to publish MANY stories of interest is certainly unfortunate, but to call out the issue of the cartoons, and claim that this shows some sort of capitulation to Islam, is facile. Especially when you fail to address the issue of the media's failure to cover issues of far greater concern to Americans, as in, the reason we went to war in Iraq, the #s of war dead, the role of contractors in Iraq, and so on.
Delusional Islamophobe: But WHAT ABOUT THE CARTOONS? No one is answering me. Why won't anyone answer me about the cartoons? They're obvious PROOF that Islam has taken over America!!! Why doesn't anyone see it? (Hey, someone pass me my tinfoil hat, okay?)
--Aruru