Letters to the Editor
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@ Scietician
Republicans: Are they stupid, or just evil? It's one or the other with no other possibilities!
Colbert has this one nailed. Let me steal his trademark line: "Evil? Or evilest ever?"
Cheers,
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Yeah, sure.
Rather than relying on arguments based on a series of facts, and explaining why those facts lead to a conclusion, salonistas will frequently claim to know the motive of their opponent. The most villainous motives are assumed (not proven) and put forward as reasons for the actions of their opponents. In other words, the opposite view is demonic, and any suggestion otherwise is evil . . . sounds like Pat Robertson, doesn’t it?
-- NotOrbitBoy
Yeah, it does. It also sounds like Bill O'Really, Hannity, Malkin, Assrocket, Savage, Limbaugh, Coulter, Rove, John Gibson, Dinesh D'sousa, Jonah Goldberg, and you.
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And if the Islamists are coming...
Simon says: "What we have on our Left is a culture of denial equal to, if not exceeding, the German Jews of the 1930s...
Because if we lose and fall under religious law,..."
OK, so this is a foreign threat comparable to the Nazis. To deal with that threat, didn't we have a draft which raised an armed force of about 12 million? Let's say 25 million today. And didn't we have big tax increases, with the top tax rate something like 90 percent?
Simon, Limbaugh, etc., are for a draft and a tax increase, right? They are serious about defending this nation, right?
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From the idiots who brought us the commies under our beds series....
This is the same silly reasoning that gave us the cold war. There is a united front (commies) which are united against us that are intending to take our freedom away.
My father used to repeat this over and over again and then say, "Why aren't intellectuals up in arms against this? They will be the first ones that communists will lock up when they take over."
Funny that they don't have much imagination -- but I guess talking about women being covered from head to toe is slight variation and counts for imagination.
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NotOrbitBoy nailed most of you
Kasimira, very well said. You will notice that no one here will be able to refute the truth of Islam's doctrine or origins; they will pick at peripheral issues, or skip the niceties and go at you personally. The fact is that we in the States are being faced with demands for exceptionalism from Muslims (which you document); we haven't surrendered completely but one may certainly look at Europe to see what happens when the Muslim population grows in numbers and influence.
Aruru, are you really saying that College Republicans stomping the flags of Hamas and Hezbollah represents an instance of hate speech? As usual, it is what my opponents on these threads say that is really quite revealing. This would seem to be a much more fruitful way to proceed: Please tell me if you think anyone should be allowed to publically insult Islam or its vile, pedophilic prophet. Where do you draw the line, Aruru? This should be good.
GM11103, yes the charges against the students were dropped after five months. That's good, and it seems to have happened in response to the ACLU and FIRE taking up the students' case. The fact that they were charged and had those charges hanging over them for months is the point that you missed - charged with, in the words of the university spokeswoman, desecrating Allah! That little tingle you are feeling is the burn of cognitive dissonance, commonly caused by defending Islam on progressive grounds.
Arne, you should have read the well-written article by Mona that immediately preceded yours. She says, "And I completely agree with Golden Boy that CNN pixilated those Danish Cartoons so one could not actually see them, that the NYT wouldn't publish them & etc, for one reason: FEAR...In that sense, Muslim terror inarguably has had a chilling effect on speech; Piss Christ pissed off Xians, but no one was bombed or murdered. ... These are serious issues." She goes on to say that a Caliphate is not remotely possible here, which is true, but I'm not arguing that it is. I am glad to see some awareness of the serious issues that Mona raises, though.
No matter how many in this little coffee klatch want to deny it, that's the truth.
And NotOrbitBoy has you all pegged: "I suspect that the lack of criticism is due to bush hatred. . . . None of the salon columnists want to say anything that may play into bush’s hands. The truth, and principles, don’t matter to them. It’s just about getting bush." Wow! I think you've just summed up Glenn's army - that and the fact that they like to post here for mutual stroking.
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Christianofascism
If there was one chance in a billion that the US could be taken over by any type of radical Islam, "leftists" would be on the frontline of the war against them. The notion of a funamental or any other kind of theocracy ruling this country is nightmarish. Unlike right wing chickenhawks, leftists don't send other people's children to fight for them. The notion that the Christianofascism so well represented by GWB is any better than Islamofascism is ludicrous, both are two sides of the same coin. Since the attack of 9/11 by Islamofascists, the US has invaded and occupied two Muslim countries, killing hundreds of thousands of Muslims in the process, and seems to be threateninga third with a nuclear attack. Looks like the Islamists have much more to fear of us than the other way around.
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@Jared Lessl, have you seen this video?
“So clearly, we need to watch out for a man who runs as VP but chooses his own executive. An unscrupulous man who has a history of supporting radical, violent, authoritarian movements. Who uses unethical staff willing to break any rules, laws, or traditions of good behavior to accomplish his goals. And when we see this guy, whatever we do, don't vote for him!”
The following was sent to me by my son this morning. The present VP you allude to doesn’t care about the truth or consequences only what ends will justify his means as this video clip proves. That’s why he and the departed Rove are the master puppeteers.
“Cheney was right about Iraq all along; well, to be more precise, he was right about Iraq back in 1994.
In 1994 he was interviewed and answered the question of why the U.S. did not capture Saddam Hussein nor try to topple his government in the aftermath of the first Gulf War. He laid out all the reasons that invading Iraq would be an amazingly bad idea, and he proves to be amazingly precient.
Everything he listed back in 1994 has come true during the current war. Watch for yourself and weep for the dead:”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BEsZMvrq-I