True.

...that was just a snippet from the teaser for the program.

Hardly a fair test.

[The show is just starting...]

This is what was claimed:

an attempt was made in Toronto to segregate muslims into Sharia seperate from Canadian law.

That simply did not happen. Not only is it misleading, it is outright false.

There was not attempt to "segregate muslims" and give them laws "seperate from Canadian law." The *voluntary* faith-based arbitrations are very much a part of Canadian law, not seperate from it, and the decisions made cannot contradict Canadian law. To claim that some Canadian laws are somehow seperate from others is inane. What was being proposed was an extension of existing Canadian law. The tribunals are not "seperate from Canadian law" any more than traffic codes are.

Nor does voluntary dispute resolution segregate anyone from anything.

The implication that crazed Muslims want their own legal system (whereas other "good" people do not) is false and the statement itself is false.

Again read your own links.

This is not a place for small dumb children.

Has anyone other than me noticed that nowhere in the West does anyone want to move to a country that is majority Muslim? It is probably unfair to point out the fundimental truth, but hey, why not?

On the other hand there are several countries in Europe where the white women are basically infertle. The Muslims are more than happy to repopulate and take over. The hippies, femminists, and the socialists are more than willing to sell their countries out for a mess of pottage and a few cigarettes.

Ironically, these are the same people that will be running away screaming for help when they are no longer a majority in their own country.

Markos Moulitsas: "...it makes no sense to talk about left and right."

Translation: "Critism of radical right-wing extremism and corporatism is off-limits. Let's talk about how nasty and backwards Muslims are and why we have to brutalize them into submission."

Fascism has been around for centuries, and has always sought scapegoats, and those scapegoats have often, but not always, been the Jewish people. For even now, American fascism uses the Muslims in the same role as scapegoat historically reserved for the Jews, and once again for the purpose of having a fulcrum to leverage political power.

But neoconservatives have also been scapegoating other groups and individuals: Democrats, gays, blacks, Clinton, the Pope, the Dixie Chicks, etc., anybody who gets in their way.

The purpose of this type of persecution is always to create a fulcrum to leverage the fascist's own power, for hate is a great tool for motivating the people to destructive policies.

Remember this, and keep it with you, always.

"The vast majority of Muslim in America are either atheists, agnostics, or those who do not wish to practice Islam the way their mufti or mullah or Imam dictates back home." - Denning

Do you have any evidence to back up this claim? I have read the recent Pew Poll results which state that, in addition to the much publicized figure of 25% of Muslims in America being in support of suicide bombing, there is are approximately the same number of Muslims here in the States that cannot or will not condemn al Qaeda (20% refuse to answer while about 6% evince actual support.) Keep in mind, too, that this poll took down names and addresses in order to compensate the responders, so one can imagine that the "real" numbers may be slightly higher.

But, when you make your points about the trouble with Islam, you should make your distinctions between Islam and radical Islam clearer. You don't have to, but it would be help. (as evidenced by shooter having mistaken you for one of his ilk).

Rest assured shooter does not mistake me for being of "his ilk." I've been commenting at Glenn's blog virtually since its inception at blogspot, and after only a few rounds with shooter there declared him a troll, and haven't replied to any of his imbecilities in something like a year.

We had a discussion of the Danish Cartoons back at Glenn's old blog, and my position then was as it is now, namely, that just because of the deranged rhetoric from the Professional Islamophobes, that does not diminish the fact that there really and actually is a problem with radical Islam. Those extremists kill people in order to, among other things, chill Western speech. But that is no reason at all to start wars all over the Middle East, and will only manufacture yet more Muslim extremists.

I presented a summarized speech from a Muslim woman arguing about what is needed to preserve and extend democracy in her society. Which is a Muslim society. Which is currently under attack from many directions, including from Islamic rebels.

And you are to be commended for having done so.

Please, do comment on the advantages of tolerance, compromise, and mutual respect, and even kindness, on achieving a diverse, stable, and constructive society.

I can tell that this is what you'd really like to do.

And I can also tell that extremists on both sides could hate you for it, until you can persuade them to consider the advantages of tolerance, compromise, and mutual respect, and even kindness. Or unless you can persuade them.

But how to do that? This is one of Swift's paradoxes: how to get the Big-Endians to cooperate with the Little-Endians? In this case, you may not be able to, because intolerance is not the root problem here.

US right-wingers don't really have a problem with Muslim extremism because they're more than happy to exploit Muslim extremism when it can help them to exploit a situation. The problem is that our oil somehow ended up under their sand. And US corporatists want that oil, and therefore want control of that part of the world. They said so. It's policy. For some reason people in that part of the world aren't so keen on the idea of being brutalized into submission so they can be robbed. Right-wingers have no idea why.

And so forth. It's like this:

Western Asia wouldn't be a problem if they didn't have all that oil.

Mooslims are evil and need to be exterminated because they won't let US corporatists pillage them freely. Islam has different deficiencies, largely the result of Muslim-style control-freak religious and political wedge issues, as compared to US-type religious and political wedge issues, as you know.

But you're still to be commended.

Thanks.