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Monday, August 13, 2007 12:00 AM

The Islamists are coming

A substantial portion of the right-wing movement actually believes that the Islamists are coming to take over America.

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Tuesday, August 14, 2007 10:26 AM

In the manner of women everywhere...

Mona didn't do her homework, got called on it, was embarrassed, and in the manner of women everywhere, will never let it go.

Shooter242

I bow to your superior knowledge of the fair sex. You are a gentlemen to your fingertips.

Tuesday, August 14, 2007 10:24 AM

Poor, Poor GoldenBoy: King of Irrationality

My dear GoldenBoy, but you, without a doubt, have claimed the title of King of the Irrational for your very own.

Assuming that your laundry list of anecdotes are in fact true -- and I won't spend the time searching for all the references, to find out exactly where and how you've manipulated the recap to bolster your delusional argument, as you often do -- then perhaps you will tell us...

1. If 73% of Muslims in America are willing to go on the record in a poll as having condemned Al Qaeda, how exactly does that justify your Islamophobic delusion that Muslims are taking over America?

2. How does one group of students sanctioned in one university for "desecrating Allah" justify your Islamophobic delusion that Muslims are taking over America?

3. How one British city council banning anything to do with pigs in the workplace justifies your Islamophobic delusion that Muslims are taking over America -- or Britain for that matter?

4. How does one Muslim organization in America being an unindicted co-conspirator in one trial justify your Islamophobic delusion that Muslims are taking over America?

5. How does one Muslim trying to establish a training center for Islam in the U.S. justifies your Islamophobic assertion that Muslims are taking over America?

Go ahead, GoldenBoy. Sputter and spit. Toss out a few more "straw mans" and "ad hominems" and "creeping Islams." Look up a few more Qu'ran quotes, and cherry pick a few more isolated news stories while you're at it.

All the while, it's quite evident to the rest of us that you are simply marinating in your own hatred and fear of Islam.

This thread is dying out, as they are wont to do with this many replies, and this much time after the initial article.

But to me, one really interesting question remains unanswered: what drove you -- and those like you -- to think this way, to be so irrationally fearful of Islam and Muslims?

Aruru

P.S. I'm sure your job is most impressive. And I'm certain we'd all be just GREEN with envy if we knew what it was. And of course, we're all just DYING to know, because it must be something TERRIBLY IMPORTANT, for you to allude to it. (Now is that better? After getting the hoo-hah beaten out of you by so many on this thread, do you feel that warm tingle of self-importance returning, knowing that we're all just terribly jealous of your occupation?)

P.S.S. Just kidding!!! Because if it actually was something even remotely interesting or relevant -- or envy-worthy -- you would be bringing it up regularly, and hitting everyone over the head with it just as subtly as you make your other points.

P.S.S.S. My money is on Latin instructor at some community college!

Tuesday, August 14, 2007 10:14 AM

As I've told shooter, when you do this kind of work, Golden Boy,

you shouldn't wear your heart on your sleeve. We've already established that some of your stories have questionable sources. We've also demonstrated that the inferences you'd have us draw from them are a) ideologically driven, and b) false.

Are we all academics, do you suppose? Glenn certainly isn't, nor is Mona, nor is Arne, nor Retired Military Patriot, nor bebop-o, nor, for that matter, am I. Would we laugh at how you make your living? What makes you think so, other than projection rooted in wounded pride?

Are you an avenging angel, or the victim of a liberal gang-bang? Make up your mind.

Tuesday, August 14, 2007 10:10 AM

Islamofashists world over

Islamofaschism is real and exists, it is just not detectable unless one is within an islamic proto state, which is, the family, the clan and the tribe within an islamic country. It works fine for the men as far as the tribe goes, but ask the women and dissenters if you can find any.

Islamofascists can never be a threat in a western country except a few honor killings here and there. The real threat is the coordinated efforts world over to bring back the chalifate, Muslim equivelant of the Pope, which can, and may elevate the tribal level islamofashism to a worldwide super state, lead and organized by a central authorithy capable of declaring cihad whenever the need arises. At the moment , no caliph exists, Ataturk sent him packing to oblivion to the dismay of all islamofashists world over, I have a true feeling that Bin Laden and the Muslim brotherhood in Egypt are no fans of Ataturk, who inspired nationalistic and secular leaders around the world like Cinnah of Pakistan, Shah of Iran and numerous other anti-imperialistic national political movements around north Africa after WWI.

If one is to understand the struggle between radical Islam and modernity, one need to go no further than Turkey, which, at the moment, is a labarotary for this particular contest, and if the seculars in Turkey lose, the Republicans fearful of Islamic takeovers of US may find their arguments some God sent traction.

Tuesday, August 14, 2007 10:08 AM

Want to know what's hysterically funny

If the name of the column was "The Jews are secretly plotting to rule the world" the cacophony of Saloniks applauding the final disclosure of the One Global Truth about Jewish Dominion over the planet would be deafening.

It's funny and it's sad how little credibility Salon has and even looses, as time goes by.

Tuesday, August 14, 2007 09:46 AM

GoldenToddler goes oh-for-three....

You state that the infamous flying imams didn't sue their accusers...

Where did I say that? Oh, yeah, I didn't. Guess we know who has less than a passign acquaintance with facts. Now go bother Freeperville, where they don't care about truth, and appreciate your bigotry far more.

Cheers,

Tuesday, August 14, 2007 09:43 AM

@ GoldenToddler

You asked "WTF" does the fact that the owner of Your Black Muslim Bakery apparently murdered an African-American investigative reporter have to do with Islam.

Because, amongst the other things I pointed out, Your Black Muslim Bakery hasn't been affiliated with the Nation of Islam for quite some time:

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2007/08/14/ED7VRHQDQ.DTL

And it wasn't the "owner" either.

Are you just stoopid or intentionally obtuse?

Cheers,

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