Letters to the Editor
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Michelle Malkin's site
So Michelle Malkin's site is a hate site, as can easily be found out in her site's comments.
American liberals*, you really have to learn to express yourself succinctly. Also, you have to hit back at nastiness; using the same method as conservatives used to attack first is preferred.
Complaining about "hypocrisy" is not hitting back. There is no referee in open political debate who can put things right and force conservatives to use only fair arguments.
All pre-election debates are battles, in all democratic countries; such as Sweden that I live in, or Canada, your neighbor. This will be so when the competitors have different values; usually left vs. right, and then there is no reasoned debate to be had. It's only American liberals who seem to think it shouldn't be so or that it can't be so.
*) I am a European Social Democrat
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Quick question
". . . and violent groups targeting Muslims."
While I am no fan of Ms. Malkin, this remark did get me to thinking. I can't come up with a single example in the United States of an organized "violent group targeting Muslims." I did come up with the Janjaweed in Sudan, Fatah and Hamas in Gaza, and the Sunni and Shi'ite splinter groups in Iraq, though.
Could you please name the U.S. "violent groups" doing things such as burning mosques, shooting imams and mosque workers, throwing acid in the faces of hijabbed women, and rioting after Sunday prayers? (CAIR, as an unindicted co-conspirator in various religiously-motivated terrorist activities, might not be the most reliable source for such information.)
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Thrasher
All of media's hate sites why just single out that slug???
Because she was one of the people at the forefront of the Yearly Kos/Jet Blue campaign, just like I said.
Glenn phoned this one in...
I expected so much more from Glenn on this subject matter instead all we get is usual tired spill about the latest new bigots this time a female racist of color.
I was hoping Glenn would elevate this subject matter to new heights and perspectives not often blogged about it really appears that Glenn phoned this one in when you compare the content and depth of his treament of other subject matters of interest in this post 9-11 world.
The point of this post was narrow: to illustrate that Bill O'Reilly and Michelle Malkin -- who successfully pressured Jet Blue to withdraw their sponsorship from Yearly Kos because of supposedly hateful Daily Kos comments -- have sites that host all sorts of worse hatemongering.
You're criticizing me because I did not, instead, write some ground-breaking post about race and liberalism?
Malkin's has hate websites yeah right no shit...That is no newsflash instead what is more substantive and interesting but missed here by Gleen is his blindspot on the majority of MSM and various websites that only have few if any people of color on thier staffs whose efforts are as lethal as Malkin's trash... often people of color on these sites can only comment about race topics, never about global warming, fiscal issues, foreign affairs, etc..
I also didn't write about Darfur and AIDS and global warming.
I also find it interesting here under Glenn's watch when he dares to discuss race the number of letters are down significantly...
Would you care to cite examples? Or even just one.
I also imagine if Glenn would discuss the racism of white jewish writers and pundits( Cohen, Horowitz et al or racists from India and parts of Europe instead of the usual WASPS suspects who engaged in racist pulp fiction towards Blacks and other people of color the letters would also be quite different and the volume would also be down.
I've written about exactly this issue with Marty Peretz and Norman Podhoretz, among others. Do I get a checkmark for writing about "the racism of white jewish writers and pundits"?
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@kasimir
The KKK and any White Aryan groups or sub-groups. They don't like Jews or Arabs.
http://www.davidduke.com/general/rev-ted-pike-adl-longs-to-revive-first-century-persecution-of-christians_2103.html
CAIR, as an unindicted co-conspirator in various religiously-motivated terrorist activities, might not be the most reliable source for such information.)
Let's ignore the JDL and ADL too. They have both been investigated and one was deemed a terrorist organization here and in Israel.
Even after his death, Kahane has had a tremendous influence on the Israeli political scene. In March 1994, the Kach party and its offshoot, Kahane Chai ("Kahane Lives"), founded by Kahane's son Binyamin Zev, were officially designated as terrorist organizations by both the Israeli government and the U.S. State Department.
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/biography/kahane.html
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Malkin is the One Planting the Vile Comments on Kos
If Malkin is an avowed liberal hater, and she thinks she can smear liberal bloggers based on what is written in the comments section of those blogs, then how do we know she isn't the one actually posting the comments she is referring to.
It's not like they are asking for these people's drivers license numbers when they post comments on these sites.
What if I go over to her blog and post a comment saying I hate liberal female mexicans and think they should all be hung in trees?
I'm not suggesting that she is (or is not) actually doing that, but merely pointing out the absurdity (and opportunity) in her arguement.
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Wabanatta_3
I wish you hadn't jumped to the conclusion that RealName was referring to Glenn when he was probably referring to O'Reilly/Malkin. Go back and read his post.
Unwad your panties, dude.
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in case someone missed it
Sorry, I didn't read the other comments, but in case someone missed it, add this to the O'Reilly file of hypocrisy, it's some commenters at O'Reilly's site joking about feeding Mexicans to crododiles.
http://www.sweetjesusihatebilloreilly.com/archive/072307.html
And in case anyone is interested, here's pt. 1 of a two post series I wrote about this
http://dailydoubt.blogspot.com/2007/07/bill-oreilly-how-do-i-detest-thee-let.html
I also wrote this
http://dailydoubt.blogspot.com/2007/07/speaking-of-oreilly.html
And of course, everyone should read this
http://dneiwert.blogspot.com/2007/07/normalizing-white-supremacy.html
That's Dave Neiwert pointing out the utter insanity of O'Reilly - a guy who has said that "s-p"s want to "break down the white, Christian, male power structure" that he and and and John McCain are a part of - lecturing anyone about spreading "hate" "no different" from KKKs or Nazis.
O'Reilly has made another comment (that I describe as "paranoid, xenophobic/nativist pseudo-fascist")
http://dailydoubt.blogspot.com/2007/06/paranoid-xenophobicnativist-pseudo.html
On the other side, you have people who hate America, and they hate it because it's run primarily by white, Christian men. Let me repeat that. America is run primarily by white, Christian men, and there is a segment of our population who hates that, despises that power structure. So they, under the guise of being compassionate, want to flood the country with foreign nationals, unlimited, unlimited, to change the complexion -- pardon the pun -- of America. Now, that's hatred, too.
Now notice that O'Reilly usually frames the so-called culture war in terms of "secular-progressives" (e.g. New York Times) trying to tear down "traditional" America. I tend to think that s-p/traditional was something O'Reilly came up with for marketing purposes, but I begin to wonder if it has something more to it than that ... perhaps O'Reilly is creating a cognitive model that allows him to blind himself to the inherent prejudice of his beliefs.