tiberius says he'll "play extremes" with Glenn this time, as though it's a tactic he's unaccustomed to using, when in fact it's the only tactic he's ever used here. Funny little man, that tiberius--even though it's unintentional.

This is, of course the default position of moral cowards. If they can point to an evil act performed by someone else, that automatically excuses any act performed on their behalf. The fact that the inevitable result is a quick descent into unbridled evil, remains unmentioned.

The Inquisition used to burn people at the stake. So of course sticking foreign objects up people's asses is just fun and games. You wouldn't want our brave soldiers to get bored now would you?

Are we the 'good guys'?

"...Yet, after the historical record has been laid bare, some people just don’t get it. After the United States invaded Mexico under false pretences; after we helped to overthrow the existing monarchy in Hawaii; after we seized Cuba, Puerto Rico, the Philippines, and Guam from Spain during the Spanish-American War; after the United States intervened militarily in Nicaragua, Panama, Honduras, the Dominican Republic, Korea, Cuba, China, and Mexico before World War I; after we sent troops to Cuba, the Dominican Republic, Russia, Panama, Honduras, Yugoslavia, Guatemala, Turkey, and China between the world wars; after we engaged in a hundred additional military actions following World War II – after all this, some people still can’t see (or perhaps don’t want to see) the insidious nature of U.S. foreign policy. ..."

I think I 'get it'; we are not the 'good guys' simply by asserting that we are. It is by the fruit of the tree that you will know the nature of it. The fruit as seen from here looks to be very bitter, indeed.

Only Republicans go to jail.

So true. Thanks for finally admitting your gang are crooks and felons.

Ok glenn, I'll play extremes with you.

Does anyone else feel a tad embarrassed this guys is part of our species?

but he isn't a priority at the moment unless of course, he goes to Iraq.

A drunk was crawling about on the sidewalk under a lamppost at night.

A Police Officer came up to him and inquired, "What are you doing?"

The drunk replied, "I'm looking for my car keys."

The Officer looked around in the lamplight, then asked the drunk, "I don't see any car keys. Are you sure you lost them here?"

The drunk replied, "No, I lost them over there", and pointed to an area of the sidewalk deep in shadow.

The policeman then asked, "Well, if you lost them over there, why are you looking over here?"

The drunk looked at him and said, "Because the light is better over here."

Why look for the any actual terrorsists when there's a whole country full of people who look just like them instead.

After all, people like shooter are too stupid to know the difference anyway. AND they're proud of the fact! Go figure.

One recurring thought brought on by Gitmo, Abu Graihb, Renditions, and like behavior is that our intelligence and military folk are learning a new, pathological, and dangerous set of skills that will come back home with them. Legal, physical, and psychological skills. Along with ethical numbing.

It is hard to see good things coming from this learning, easy to see bad ones.

you don't believe bin Laden should be brought to justice. Nice. Well, now we know where you stand. You've said lots of ridiculous things here, but I think you've just topped yourself with that post. Or bottomed out like never before. However you want to look at it. But man, there's more going on in your reply than I have time to address, that's for sure.

Just in case anyone still thinks that the Republicans are the "law and order" party, we have yet more evidence showing how they really feel. "Only Republicans go to jail." My god, what a howler that one is. Maybe if they stopped committing so many crimes, they wouldn't go to jail, now would they?

we were, not any more. It is easy to see why some Arabs call the United States the great Satan.

The current dictator has destroyed the reputation of the U.S. in six years not only with foreign nationals but also with any thinking American citizen.

The things going on here in this country are truly frightening and sadly seems to be the handwriting on the wall of the death of the U.S., the level of corruption is so deep it may be impossible to fix it.

When sexual perverts control the houses of government in a country that country is doomed from within.

Is there any way we can post that last reply by shooter on the sidebar for posterity? Sort of a "Hall of Shame" kind of thing? He's said some remarkably stupid thangs that are equally telling as they are shameful, but it would be nice for all to see, since a lot of people don't get to read the letters every day.

God... Shooter actually thought about what he wrote, typed it, and then hit the "Publish my letter" button on that one... amazing!

Please check out this link to an opinion piece by JOSHUA COLANGELO-BRYAN:

http://www.kansas.com/205/story/100302.html

(link also in my signature)

"Only Republicans go to jail." -- photographer 242

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/cheney

When the FBI seized files from the office of Rep. William J. Jefferson (D-La.) as part of a bribery investigation, House Republican leaders erupted. With a number of their own members under investigation for other matters, they charged that the search violated the Constitution. They demanded the return of the files.

Cheney quickly gravitated toward the House's position

[ . . . ] Bush made Cheney's recommendation official.

Such solidarity! Mighty white of them. (Yes, there were also some Dems asking Bush and Cheney to act as they did, but it wasn't the Dems who had the decisive influence.)

"... What makes you think we were ever the good guys? How little you all know about history. About imperialism, proxy wars, economic warefare, exporting garbage and importing the world's resources. Screw all of you simpletons who view Guantanamo as a "current administration," or "Neo-con," or "republican" issue. We used to throw prisoners out of helicopters in Vietnam. We used to hook up electric generators to prisoner's balls in Korea. Our soldiers raped the enemy and civilians during WWII. Wake up people. ..."

It is true that both wings of the warfare-welfare party have overseen horrors that most can not imagine, much less understand. It does no good to merely point out that the Democratic Party has also participated in vile evil worthy of a Lovecraft story, if you mean to excuse the present horror.

We can deal with only a few things at a time. For now, we fight the god damn Republican war-machine and its war-bots. Starting in 2008 (assuming the Dems do nothing real stupid) we will be yelling at the horrors brought to us by the new folks in DC. (perhaps then a few partisans will see that both parties are the problem just as Washington predicted)