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http://thinkprogress.org/2007/06/24/cheney-wp-profile
I think this story deserves a lot more attention than a Saturday post might inspire. You know, the professional journalists only work Monday through Friday 9 to 5, and they might miss it as you routinely produce much more content than they do and in the process knock the story down the queue. Please keep hitting it hard as you find more information.
These Stockholm Syndrome journalists need some serious deprogramming, and it's going to take a widespread effort. Hopefully "The Daily Show" can pick up on this thing and show a wider audience that we've got a government inspired by Orwell and a group of Patty Hearsts running the media.
The effectiveness of an argument is as much the result of the "preparation" of another mind to hear it as it is of the strength of the argument.
Because the arguments Glenn makes often contain numerous references combined with a careful logic, "counter-arguments" in the form of name calling probably have very little effect on regular readers. In other words, the exclamation "surrender monkey" as a counter argument doesn't get you very far on this blog. Any casual reader who would buy that as a counter-argument has little or nothing to gain from reading Glenn's posts. When these same counter-arguments (by these same people) contain names, dates, numbers and other forms of legitimate information, I have been tempted in the past to try to engage them in some sort of discussion. It is a waste. Any attempt at dialogue is ignored. They are not here for dialogue. A dialogue is a reciprocal conversation. They are here for an opposite purpose. They are here to disrupt any attempt at dialogue. A page of comments by someone like RealName is often no more than a 500 word version of "surrender monkey."
Our self-described (at least in Shooter's case) resident trolls, have no other purpose than to dilute the effect that Glenn's arguments may have in the public space. Although there is a little rhyme from time to time, there is almost never any reason or logic attached to their comments. There is nothing but name calling and the reiteration of talking points you can hear verbatim any time of day from Fox, Limbaugh, or (on the web) LGF.
Since the trolls always show up at the start of a new article by Glenn and often show up again at the end of a comment thread, I can understand the desire of some of the other commenters not to let the trolls have the stage to themselves during peak readership periods. On the other hand, any reader who would buy what the trolls are selling without taking the time to read forward or backward through the comments (at least a page or two) probably isn't familiar with the concept of a troll. So, even the warning, "Reader beware, trolls in the area," would be of little use.
(I’ve been wanting to make a point about comment references to “retards,” or “{fill-in-the-blank}-tards” for some time, and realname, who is not shy about using such references, looks like a great place to start. So apologies to casual observer, whose wise words I am ignoring for now.)
realname, that "fool" bebop-o does something better than you or I will ever do at anything in our lifetimes. And while I am on the subject of talking back to fools who project that attribute to others, you are not the only one who does this for sure, but I do some volunteer work with "Retards," your clever pejorative for those with whom you disagree, and, they are individuals just like we are with emotions and sensibilities, some of which you and I would do well to emulate.
So I would suggest you tear your fat ass away from the computer monitor and get out in the world and get to know some of those who are different from you. You might learn that the world has many shades between black and white. And you may find that you quit using words like “retard” or “{fill-in-the-blanks}-tard.” Words can hurt, pal.
Three points:
1. Funny I hadn't noticed the shift to "al-Qaida," which of course makes sense: how better to unite both a faltering genus Americaneae species ignoramus as well beleagured and/or resisting Iraqis behind a common enemy.
2. Wasn't the British/US battle between the British and French termed the French and Indian war? Propaganda is not new to those who would establish empires.
3. A couple weeks ago Lieberman returned from a visit to "Iraq, other countries in the Middle East, and [muffled, hand over mouth] Israel," and declared with absolute certainty that Iran was behind the killing of "200 American soldiers," and that "irrefutable proof" existed that Iran was training Iraqis to fight against Americans in Iraq. As we all know, for those reasons Lieberman demanded that the US take military action against Iran.
In the week subsequent to Lieberman's statements, at least three US military leaders echoed the "irrefutable proof" statement. But apparently this was the sobriquet du jour only until the memo made the rounds that the information that the Israelis had fed Lieberman and were feeding the US may or may not be accurate, but nevertheless it was not in step with the Administration's PR plan and would have to wait its turn; it would be deployed when the next new stay-the-course PR offensive was unveiled.
Stay tuned.
William @ 7:19 sees via the baloney.
W.T. knows there is no magnificence in RealName OOO's! Zero's goons are RealFools! Fools feed on blog-Con's and are real dung-ox-Plops.
William strippers 'um to help show what we might become? aweful. If a plutocrat gets all naked at the Salon's Public market place, they are just trolls practicing the art of being streaker exhibitionist.
The RotJuice slurp on Meet The O-Press is pretend "civil" and in my opinion, much more lethal leaven that spreads a sickness of spirit that is worst. The talk of a the immigration ("platypus") bill reminds me of a GOP crow digging with a tiny beak-bill and scratches into the earth for a night glow worm.
The Creep's are NO longer a garden peacock or a gunny-pig squawking. They are much more dangerous. They do NOT forewarn of big troubles that are coming 'round the bend in the road. Real-OOOName and squakers talk as if they are chicken hawk buzzards just wanting to scoop down upon a cobra snake and report to a paying Pluto-boss what they got? A wise serpent W.T.
Stupid-O-Hush, Ah, O! 'Um big time stuck in Ox Flops.
Like the mythical Adam, found out he was bare naked, and while plowing behind a water buffalo ox from Eden, they want to sniff and scratch and smell the underside bull's tail (chode)?
Yuck.
I learned that word at the Salon. These trolls can learn they can ask forgiveness, and with real repentance combine and know something wonderful and new. The deep pain they feel for being neo-con accomplices in death, robbery, defamation, and all NoName wiles/bile-blood...Etc.,...Sad is...
...{is} deep anguish that grows worst with daily gradual increments. It is classic projection. William carries a honky okay. Never wave surrender, Timberman. RealName reminds me of a M-60 machine gunner who was screwing up RealBad in Vietnam. I just recalled how sad it was when some one (friendly or not, I'll never know?) shot the weird and very cruel psychopath M-60 gunner in the throat. He was a danger to all the other platoon, squad, and was a disgrace to the entire regiment. It was a sad day to watch him choke and gurgle on his own blood and then go, "Croak."
Sorry, the truth can hurt. It is a honest memory of mine. I am always sad to see a person die, he was a big O-Loser. True.
I was having a better time picking the round, small, beautiful, and o-shaped berries. I go now and listen to songbirds...