Letters to the Editor

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Those who think that Bush and his movement can be explained away with trite moralistic or conspiratorial slogans share the same mentality that has driven his presidency.
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  • Occam's Razor

    ...perhaps should not be applied to human interactions, which are rarely simple.

    quoting the article:

    "One can certainly make rational arguments that Bush's conduct (or anyone else's) does not comport with core Christian values. But the assertion that Bush's evangelical fervor is insincerely held is no less irrational, hubristic and absurd than when the same claim is made by his followers against Democrats and liberals who claim to be guided by faith."

    One can also make the argument that one of the Bush Administration's most dangerous weapons is projecting his mistakes, bad habits, bad judgement, and endless flaws upon his political opponents. All you have to do to find out what he's been doing is listen closely to what he accuses Democratic party representatives of doing.

    Listen also to what he adamantly denies doing himself. (We don't listen to people's conversations unless we get a warrant - The Bush Admin is very concerned about upholding the rule of law...) and you'll find out what he really is doing.

  • @Treysk

    Glenn stated something like this in comments a few threads ago.

    Bush had an opportunity for greatness after 9/11. He let it slip by and that is tragic, for America, the world, and Bush.

    "There are no great men, only great challenges that ordinary men are forced by circumstances to meet."

    - Admiral William F. 'Bull' Halsey Jr.

  • So,

    am I good and Bush is bad or are you good and I'm good and terrorists are bad or are we all bad and just think we're good?

    Thanks for clearing this all up Glenn.

  • Ironically...

    Thank you for posting the book excerpt, as well as Glenn's excellent follow-up blog post. Despite his accurate description of the unfortunate state of affairs in the world today, his refusal to stoop to easy answers actually gives me some hope for the world, that maybe somehow thoughtful voices can prevail.

    At one point I cancelled my Salon subscription due to what I perceived was excessive left slant, to the point that I no longer trusted Salon to give me a complete account of current events. Articles like this give me hope that I was wrong...

  • @Paul R

    Not so the alleged "9/11 truth movement" account of 9/11, which depends not just on a totally different level of scope, competence and daring, but also an action decidedly at odds with outward visible behavior. Leaving aside all the holes in the "9/11 truth" account--which dwarf those of the "official story," which doesn't just come from government officials, but from scientific investigators and others--this leaves us with the same sort of question such vast conspiracy stories always leave us with: how can such a vast evil be kept secret for so long?

    I've read this blog long enough to recognize that I'll be ad hominemed to death for daring to take on the self-appointed sage of this comments section. But I think it's about time someone (who, like you, agrees with the bulk of what Glenn writes) called bullshit on some of your conclusions.

    I get that you've read 40 billion books and can quote the most obscure historical references to support your point of view. I generally admire your scholarship and literacy. But the fact is, like many of us, you begin from a pre-determined conclusion and then marshal your arguments to support that conclusion. You've demonstrated a shocking inability to process information that doesn't conform to what you've already decided, and because of that rigidity, you fall into the same rhetorical traps you and others here are quick to point out.

    If you had any interest at all in actually looking at "9/11 truth movement" material, the very first thing you'd be well aware of is that there is no "account" on which any of the parties involved completely agree. But not only do you seem to insist that there is a single refutable account, you advance arguments about that account without ever identifying what it is.

    It would be far more honest for you to say, "I believe the people in power are capable of many things, but I refuse to accept they could do this." Because I believe that for you and many of the people here who accept such a paragraph as the one above, that's the bottom line. Emotionally, you draw the line in the sand and because you're all part of the mob that agrees, you can pretend that you have done actual investigation and that you have diligently uncovered facts to support a position. But whether you can admit it to yourself or not, the conclusion was never going to be shaken because it's too emotionally entrenched.

    The same phenomenon is at work with your breathtakingly ignorant representation of libertarianism. Again, you can fool a bunch of people here by showering endless quotes that demonstrate how diligent you've been in your research, but the truth is, your understanding of the principles of libertarianism seemed to have been formed from the equivalent of a "Reefer Madness" pamphlet and then just gussied up with a lot of impressive sounding crap from people who say what you want them to say.

    The points are these:

    1) You say you want to put the brakes on what's happening in our government but not if it means accepting the possibility that some of them are complicit in the atrocity of 9/11. You're such an intelligent, clear thinking individual that you'd never be affected by the government propaganda (that you're well aware is being pushed on you daily), yet you eagerly swallow what would be (if true) the most terrible lie of all. And as demonstrated above, you really don't want to know.

    2) You'd like the war(s) in the Middle East to end, but not so much if it means you have to give credit to people like Ron Paul and Lew Rockwell because somebody told you once that they were racist. You can't supply documentation for that, but it's no matter, what your instincts tell you about these people weighs much more heavily than stopping the killing of innocent people.

  • "Bush is Evil" re-inforces the Authoritarian frame

    Thanks for calling out those who want to paint Bush with the same simplistic "Evil" brush that Bush uses against others. What those who do so fail to understand is that, by doing so, they are legitimizing Bush's own use of this model.

    If we are to argue that Manichean "Good vs. Evil" is a bad frame for our foreign policy (or any other policy for that matter) than we shoot ourselves in the foot if we, at the same time, adopt a similar black-n-white approach to Bush and his cronies.

    On the second point: I agree that the question of Bush's own personal beliefs are irrelevent. If he really believes we are in a titanic battle of "Good vs. Evil" or whether he just uses it as a convenient talking point to scare people into supporting his policies, the end result is the same: the encouragement of a naive, simplistic view of the world that leaves us more vulnerable to the true evils (small e) of the world.

    Besides, it is my personal belief that, even if the "Good vs. Evil" frame was adopted opportunistically by the right, the repeated application of the frame will seep back into the mindset of those who promote it. In other words, the more you push the Koolaid the more the Koolaid starts to look good to you. So even if Bush didn't start out really believing in all his talk of "Good vs. Evil" he probably does now. After all, it may be the only thing that comforts him in the face of overwhelming public disapproval.