He doesn't get it. Even now, he doesn't get it. He no longer controls the pantry, or the dictionary. And we aren't going to be content just to insult him, nosirree. We're gonna come find himno matter where he hides, and when we do, we're gonna put a stake through his black, collaborationist heart. Yep.

(I suspect that like the aging prima donna who just can't help scanning Variety every morning to see if there's the tiniest mention of her after an absence of over forty years, Joe sneaks a moment now and then to see if Glenn's done him wrong again. The above is for those moments, and meant, in a metaphorical way, to let him know just how much we all appreciate him.)

But that monopoly on the use of force your so worried about....

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Just to make sure you understand my point, I use "self interest"in the literal sense of doing what is what is best for ones self, overall.

Good. Then it's settled. You will acquiesce and agree, then, when we put you in a secure medical facility until such time as you manage to come back to reality. After all, it's in your "self interest". Said deliberation and decision on our part is free of course, no charge to you. Which is also in your "self interest", if I may be so bold.

Cheers,

Posthumously baptize the deceased. If it ever got out that quite a few of the founding fathers, (Paine, Jefferson, Franklin for sure) were "Jacobin syndicalists," all hell would break loose and their little fantasy would end.

Personal property is the effect of Society; and it is as impossible for an individual to acquire personal property without the aid of society, as it is for him to make land originally. Separate an individual from society, and give him an island or a continent to possess, and he cannot acquire personal property. He cannot be rich. So inseparably are the means connected with the end, in all cases, that where the former do not exist, the latter cannot be obtained. All accumulation therefore of personal property, beyond what a man's own hands produce, is derived to him by living in society; and he owes, on every principle of justice, of gratitude, and of civilization, a part of that accumulation back again to society from whence the whole came. This is putting the matter on a general principle, and perhaps it is best to do so; for if we examine the case minutely, it will be found, that the accumulation of personal property is, in many instances, the effect of paying too little for the labour that produced it; the consequence of which is, that the working hand perishes in old age, and the employer abounds in affluence. It is perhaps impossible to proportion exactly the price of labour to the profits it produces; and it will also be said, as an apology for injustice, that were a workman to receive an increase of wages daily, he would not save it against old age nor be much the better for it in the interim. Make then Society the treasurer to guard it for him in a common fund, for it is no reason that because he might not make a good use of it for himself that another shall take it.

Thomas Paine, "Agrarian Justice" 1797

b1: .."but, I do not see using government to punish them simply because I dislike them so much ..."

PD: "Are zoning ordinances and minimum wage laws "punishment" or are they simply ways that communities impose standards of behavior on their otherwise disembodied neighbors?"

How did you get there? My comment was that you may deal with Walmart where they broke the law, and I mentioned zoning first. There is much more. They had god damn slaves living in a store --- I saw it on the news. I bet they broke anti-trust laws.

The quote you use ( and did not care for, I guess) is the closing idea that you may not morally punish them with legal actions just because you can do so and want to do so. If you do, you become as morally bankrupt as the present ruling administration.

To clarify. Hit them were they are guilty; but not where they are innocent.

I am not opposed to leaders, nor to law; just the opposite. I do oppose the idea that certain leaders should have a special privilege to use force, coerce, or compel others to submit to their leadership. They should not use force in ways that would be impermissible for other people to use force.

Anarchists favor there being more leaders, not no leaders; as many leaders as followers will follow. Similarly, anarchists do not oppose law, but rather oppose the existence of any body of men with the power to make law by merely decreeing it to be law. We disagree with the monopoly on law and force within a defined border that constitutes the modern nation-state. -- bucky1

I take it this is a vote for warlordism?

When corporations have their own armies....

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Karen M and IntrovertGirl are gonna love this. It's right up there with Peace is our profession.

William: "I take it this is a vote for warlordism?"

No. It is a vote against governments who in the 20th century murdered perhaps 200 million of their own citizens.

" New Estimate of 20th Century Democide as 262,000,000"

"...Occasioned by my study of King Leopold's democide in his Congo Free State, I have raised my estimate of colonial democide to 50,000,000. I published the details of this in my blog here , and followed that up with a docudrama -- what it was like to be a native in Leopold's Congo -- to give heart and feeling to the cold statistics. It is here (bottom of the page). ..."

William, I am sure many here get a real personal charge out of feeling as if they stand on the side of the angels of god as they claim that they would only use the awesome power of government to make the lives of the weak much better. But, I have to ask: what about the dead?

(note: Warlordism comes from western meddling, and then pretending we did not sell all those weapons and did not destroy their traditional culture.)