Storybrown... Paul Craig Roberts - Honest Conservative

It is true, as you say, that few conservative writers & leaders publicly opposed Bush before his bubble popped, but one who did from the beginning, in phrases equally responsible and strident, was Paul Craig Roberts

Where else? The loons at Lew Rockwell. Look, I've been reading them since before Dr. Mengele showed up.:

The Democratic Nazi Party

by Paul Craig Roberts

Two weeks after Americans chose a new President on November 7, the Democratic Party is still trying to change the vote count. Responding to this unusual situation, the Wall Street Journal called on Republicans not to allow Democrats to steal the election and with it the Constitution.

The editorial, "The Squeamish GOP," indicates that the Journal does not think the Republicans have what it takes to defend their president elect and the American Constitution. Obviously, the Democrats think likewise, or they would not so brazenly steal an election in broad daylight with the connivance of the media and the Democratic Florida Supreme Court.

The Florida Supreme Court did not hesitate to show that it is not a court but a partisan arm of the Democratic Party. The court has no power or authority to stop the Florida Secretary of State, Katherine Harris, from exercising the legal powers of her office according to Florida law. Yet, without even hearing cause or petition, the court issued an injunction to the Secretary of State forbidding her from exercising her responsibility under law.

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If Republicans allow the election to be stolen, they will forever be discredited. There is no excuse for a party that controls both executive and legislative power in Florida to stand aside while thieves steal the election. Every member of the Florida Supreme Court should be arrested, indicted, and immediately put on trial for aiding and abetting vote fraud. The Democrats, who are re-voting already recounted ballots, must also be arrested, indicted, and tried for perpetrating vote fraud.

The media that threw the West Coast to Gore by falsely announcing Gore’s victory before the polls closed, together with the media that is cloaking Florida vote fraud as a recount, must also be indicted for their participation in vote fraud.

Once Bush assumes the office to which he has been elected, Republicans must turn their attention to dismantling the Democratic Party’s Propaganda Ministry that masquerades as a news media. The most obvious solution is nationalization. Give the corrupt media the socialism it wants, and run the organizations as strict news outlets with all editorializing and opinion banned.

Once Americans can get the facts, they will realize that a Nazi Party (a k a the Democratic Party) has grown up in their midst.

November 23, 2000

http://www.lewrockwell.com/roberts/roberts2.html

LaL:

Strictly speaking and properly understood, all of our "political problems," are derivative from "quality of consciousness" problems.

Practical, pragmatic, action-oriented people do not want to admit that unthinking action is problematic, and of course that's why such people are causing the most problems in the world. For them, feeling and willing are far more important than thinking.

We can and should act politically, but if we are not to make matters worse, as the Nazis, Bolshevics, and Bushevics (to name only three movements) have done so spectacularly with their coercive institutions and *predilection for action at the expense of forethought*, we can and should look first, as Confucius and others have said, at the state of our own consciousness.

My word, you write well when moved to speak your mind. Well done. :-)

In the first century, there were pagan gnostics, jewish gnostics, christian gnostics, eastern paths, and others I can not even imagine of that taught that to know one's self was to know the ultimate consciousness (god in our lingo). "The kingdom is within you" I think you have become "enlightened." :-)

I asked a few times if anyone here ever just talked about a particular solution to a particular problem (an issue) rather than in broad generalizations. So far, no love.

So Roberts thinks that the Democrats are Nazi's for trying to get an honest vote count.

Sounds pretty honest to me. That is what most conservative ideologues think: Equal treatment for anyone they oppose is tyranny.

By analogy, I can then argue that LWM's attacks on Bucky1 are like the US's attack on Iraq. Just as not all brown-skinned ME residants are Al-Qaeda, not all Lew Rockwell fans are closet fascists! (which isn't to say that some aren't....in both cases)

-- Paul Dirks

You are probably right, but fascism isn't readily recognizable to all people, is it? We've discussed this until we are liberally blue in the face. When fascism comes to america it will be wrapped in the _____________ and carrying a _________.

All he has to do is repudiate Hoppe, who he urged some of us to read on a previous thread. A sample:

Down With Democracy

http://www.lewrockwell.com/hoppe/hoppe12.html

Democracy: The God That Failed

http://www.lewrockwell.com/hoppe/hoppe4.html

I fill in the blanks here: Wrapped in the mantle of Freedom and carrying a "Keep of the Grass" sign.

http://www.propertyandfreedom.org/

It's probably a "This Space For Rent" sign.

We have at least one here who seems to be totally unable to understand that libertarians see vast misuses of government power by both of our supposedly independent major parties. Depending upon who is in power at a given time, we might be yelling at a Democrat or at a Republican. Why is that hard to understand?

Why is it hard to understand that we anti-war types do not see any difference in a war simply based on which Party got it started. Why is this hard to see?

Why is it hard to see that we think that if government caused the problem (e.g., the Great Depression or the "war on drugs") that even more government is not the cure that the Doctor ordered. Why is this hard to see?

I also would point out to our very literal friends that few politic leaders or theorists are all good or all bad. If we have purity tests, then we are fundamentalists of the worse sort.