Letters to the Editor
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"Terrorism, in my book"
You wrote a book?
May we read it please?
Are you Craig Winn? "Tea and Sympathy" "Tea is for Terrorists"
What's it called, again?
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GB, you're just slow...
I was talking about the poll. The poll that you go on and on about, how the fact that an eighth of respondents refuse to affirmatively condemn Osama et. al, means that they support him in some way.
But our tradition is the reverse - silence is assent. That's the rules - I didn't make 'em up. But you'll just blather some more, to hide the fact that the colored people are coming...
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Or is it this book?
http://www.unc.edu/~cernst/courses/2004/026/001/spencer.htm
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Grammar & GB
GB, it wasn't your grammar. Your English is very good. It's just that you used a word that, while we would understand it, would not likely be used by an American.
You have an agenda. I'd just like to know why.
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Svensker
OK, now I'm genuinely curious. What word are you talking about? In exchange I'll share my "agenda."
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You have just accused the U.S. Government of terrorism
"Terrorism, in my book, is the deliberate targeting of a civilian population for political ends."
He's right. We can all resume our normal lives, such as they are.
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Svensker... Don't tell him
"What word are you talking about?"
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South Paterson
there were a few people who did seem to be celebrating in SOUTH Paterson on 9/11
I was in Hoboken that morning, myself, but I didn't hear about the South Paterson thing, or at least in wasn't in the Hudson Co. papers that I read during those days. Haven't tried the halal burrito place, but I'm very fond of the spinach pies at Fattal's on Main St. :)
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I think I know the word
Is it "attenuate"? There are ways of learning the meaning of that word other than being born outside the US.
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The true nature of Islam
Golden Boy,
So you want to talk about the true nature of Islam. I think it is a safe bet that when a religion is 1300 years old and has hundreds of millions of adherents, it will not have one single nature. It seems a fair bet that if you look at Muslims across the world and Islam throughout its history, you will find a mass of contradictions. There will be much to condemn and much to admire and all the maddening inconsistencies that are human nature.
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Disassemblage
thehallmark:
Help me, Golden Boy! Help us all understand what all of this means and where we go from here!!!
Normally I advocate ignoring trolls-- but that was funny. Thanks!
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Reaction According to Wiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/September_11,_2001_attacks
International reaction
A solitary firefighter stands amid the rubble and smoke in New York City. Days after the Sept. 11 attack, fires still burned at the site of the World Trade Center.
Front Page of The New York Times on September 12, 2001, the first issue of that paper to be released following the attacksThe attacks had major global political ramifications. They were denounced by mainstream media and governments worldwide, with the headline of France's Le Monde newspaper summing up the international mood of sympathy: "We Are All Americans" (Nous sommes tous Américains).[94] The most publicized exception was that some Palestinians celebrated jubilantly upon hearing about 9/11.[95] There was a report by a journalist about public demonstrations of enthusiasm for the attacks conducted by Chinese students in Beijing, China during the night after the attacks. Although the journalist was not in China on the day of 9/11, he reported the event on the 5th anniversary of 9/11 based on accounts he had learned from his sources.[96] Leaders in most Middle Eastern countries, including Afghanistan, condemned the attacks. Iraq was a notable exception, with an immediate official statement that "the American cowboys are reaping the fruit of their crimes against humanity."[97]
Numerous countries, including the UK, India, Australia, France, Germany, Indonesia, China, Canada, Russia, Pakistan, Jordan, Mauritius, Uganda and Zimbabwe introduced "anti-terrorism" legislation[100] and froze the bank accounts[101] of businesses and individuals they suspected of having al-Qaeda ties.
Public response
The 9/11 attacks had immediate and overwhelming effects upon the United States population. Gratitude toward uniformed public-safety workers (dubbed "first responders"), and especially toward firefighters, was widely expressed in light of both the drama of the risks taken on the scene and the high death toll among the workers. Many police officers and rescue workers elsewhere in the country took leaves of absence to travel to New York City to assist in the grim process of recovering bodies from the twisted remnants of the Twin Towers. Blood donations also saw a surge in the weeks after 9/11.[109]
Numerous incidents of harassment and hate crimes were reported against Middle Easterners and other "Middle Eastern-looking" people, particularly Sikhs, due to the fact that Sikh males usually wear turbans, which are stereotypically associated with Muslims in the United States. There were reports of verbal abuse, attacks on mosques and other religious buildings (including the firebombing of a Hindu temple) and assaults on people, including one murder; Balbir Singh Sodhi was fatally shot on September 15. He, like others, was a Sikh who was mistaken for a Muslim.[110]
Following the attacks, George W. Bush's job approval rating soared to 86%.[111]
Muslim American reaction
Top Muslim organizations in the United States were swift to condemn the attacks on 9/11 and called "upon Muslim Americans to come forward with their skills and resources to help alleviate the sufferings of the affected people and their families". Top organizations include: Islamic Society of North America, American Muslim Alliance, American Muslim Council, Council on American-Islamic Relations, The Islamic Circle of North America, and the Shari'a Scholars Association of North America. In addition to massive monetary donations, many Islamic organizations launched blood drives and provided medical assistance, food, and residence for victims.[113]
Bush pissed all that international good will away...
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Prejudice
"The very ink with which all history is written is merely fluid prejudice".
- Mark Twain
(sorry. The world's so bizarre these days that I've gone under my Twain blanket again.)
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"I think I know the word. Is it..."
Now he's Groucho Marx on "You Bet Your Life!"
Oh, damn! I threatened him again!
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Golden Boy
Would you like to buy a vowel?
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For da GB
Golden Boy: "Seriously though, find where I support killing civilians and post it. That is an absolutely false accusation to make against me."
Um... Your entire point in this thread is about how we should be so afraid because 1/4th as many Muslims as "regular citizens" in the US support killing civilians. (And there are a great many more "citizens" than Muslims in the first place.)
So, *Muslims* supporting the killing of civilians is to you a *lot* more of a problem than "citizens" doing the same.
Assuming that you do, as you say, *not* support the killing of civilians, one would assume you would focus your efforts where they would do the most good. According to this poll, that is not the Muslim population. Hence, either you *do* support the killing of civilians, or you have some other reason to single out muslims. Or you're just rather stupid. The last I doubt.