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Wednesday, May 16, 2007 12:00 AM

Comey's testimony raises new and vital questions about the NSA scandal

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Wednesday, May 16, 2007 06:37 AM

Wishes

Mr. Greenwald's keen eye for what is truly important in the going-ons of our government reinforces the sense I keep having that my country has left its orbit and is spinning away, careening closer and closer to some larger and nefarious end. If only we had some medium for getting this type of information out to the rest of the citizenry.......if only there was, I don't know, some sort of estate after the third one that would watch our government and use its power to right a listing ship of state......

Wednesday, May 16, 2007 06:36 AM

We Have Met the Enemy

"But if that's the case -- if it was only in 2004 that a requirement was created that the eavesdropping be tied closely to terrorists encompassed by the AUMF -- then that would mean that prior to that time, there was no nexus between the eavesdropping and those terrorist groups." -- Glenn

I imagine the only change that was made in '04 to tie the program to the enemy was to reclassify us the American people as "the enemy." I, too, was and am struck by the way Bush-Cheney use the word "enemy" to describe us all; and after all these are the same people who think pot growers in Canada and anti-war Quakers in Florida are "terrorists."

[Remember the post-9/11 TV ad that portrayed pot smokers as terrorists? and Ariana's smart response ad tying gas-guzzling SUV owners to terrorism?] "Everyone's a suspect" -- wasn't that Frontline's opening line? You're either with Bush-Cheney or against them.

Wednesday, May 16, 2007 06:36 AM

More than mere speculation

I could hardly imagine that such a dramatic confrontation at the hospital had occurred merely over which excuse should be used to justify warrentless wiretapping.

If you go back to your first point (this program had been authorized every 45 days since October 2001 before the DOJ switched gears) something should jump out here; 2004 was an election year. Dick Cheney had more to worry about in this election year than Dick Nixon ever had to worry about in 1972.

Here was an administration with the power to listen to anyone's conversations without anyone else finding out. Would they have taken advantage of this power to listen in on political enemies? Hmmm.... recently the Administration was given the power to replace any USA for any reason and without any oversight or need for approval. Would they exploit this power to install appointees to pursue political aims? Why yes! Yes they would!

Thanks to modern surveillence technology, Bush and Co didn't have to worry about some modern day bumbling "plumbers" getting caught tapping the phones of the DNC. They could do that with supercomputers installed at AT&T, or satellites.

Someone somewhere down the line involved in the spying must have gotten troubled by certain information requests from the WhiteHouse. He or she says something to their boss at DOJ and Comey, Ashcroft and other top lawyers have a sit down. They, as you speculate, must have worried that the program had creeped outside its intended purpose and was now threatening to create a political scandal.

My guess is the DOJ's refusal to recertify came at a critical point in whatever spying was going on. Yet, as Comey acknowledges, his and Ashcrofts concern over the program was SO GREAT THAT EVEN THE MADRID BOMBINGS DID NOT INFLUENCE THEIR DECISION. When that is the case they must have worried about something other than spying on terrorists.

There needs to be a special prosecutor to answer these questions, as this is beginning to look a lot like Watergate, but without the hotel.

Wednesday, May 16, 2007 06:32 AM

Those were 2 terrific pieces, Glenn ...

... but I'm almost convinced that nothing will come of this. After hearing Comey's testimony yesterday, I was so furious I was near tears. I thought maybe, finally, people will understand that a bunch of thugs are running our government. But my own city's newspaper (150,000 pop.) didn't even carry a story about it in today's edition. Fox News yesterday evening focused on Snarlin' Arlen's hyping Comey's unwillingness to state definitively that the program was illegal. Tony Snow's feigned dismissiveness ("disgusting" is the right word for his attitude) and Gonzo's refusal to allow Ashcroft and Comey to testify in 2006 make me think that they're worried. If the Senate Judiciary Committee keeps chewing on this, maybe it will have an impact. I'm not optimistic.

Wednesday, May 16, 2007 06:32 AM

The American public has its own questions

How is this not a major scandal on the level of the greatest presidential corruption and lawbreaking scandals in our country's history? -- GG

It is exactly what you describe, one of the greatest examples of presidential corruption and lawbreaking in our country's history. And it is part of a pattern that that began with the election of this president and that has influenced this administration's every decision.

To this point, the executive branch has not been held accountable for its multiple criminal offenses. A partisan congress and supreme court have aided and abetted this criminality by failing to exercise their own powers under the Constitution. And the main stream media has done almost nothing to inform the public of this and other crimes committed by the executive branch. If not for the oversight of the present congress, none of this would have reached the light of day.

Many questions remain unanswered.

How do you remove a criminal executive branch officer from office without impeachment? How do you hold accountable those persons in government who refuse to meet their responsibilities to hold such criminal behavior accountable? How do you convince the media to meet its responsibility to make this behavior known to the general public? These are the types of questions America's citizens are asking.

Ultimately, it is the public who has the power to hold all of these people accountable and to punish them for any crimes. But America's citizens cannot do their jobs if they not informed.

Wednesday, May 16, 2007 06:30 AM

Citizen Default Position

Private (is there such an entity any more?) citizens must, at this juncture, assume the default position that their mail is read, their telephone calls monitored, their electronic communications monitored, their reading selections known and monitored, their purchases and purchase history/preferences/modes of transactions are known and monitored, and that their voting is contaminated.

Moreover, corporations and their attendant lobbyists determine policy and write legislation; Congress reports to these entities.

Citizens are simply used as voting cover to demonstrate a scrim of "citizen representation."

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