GWB sneaks rice-wine to Codi at the lower Camp David cottage. George, like all males, love a pretty gal, but, a gallon of rot-whiskey for Cod-fish snacks is a darn-Gall too much whiskey.

We, diddle ding, another ring, a ding dank...Let's no eat fried squirrels or roasted beaver on Monday via Sunday.

I am sorry too for pretending this is a 3rd rate chat room...It's not snot, it's nice. Well, churn my own nose till a mind QUITS a shocking corn business?

Ring tin tang. Never agree with the tin-tin hat's cooks. 'um bake and cocky-kooky 'stuff' to kill the truth. I need a lawyer. Too bad there ain't a good one in the whole damn universe. Look out in a big Solar system...What ya see? Nun!

They don't get none...Wooster's sauce than this in a neocon ears, makes ya deaf. 'Um Gop's are all unshelled roasted goober Pea-Nuts, imo. I may change tomorrow.

Congressional investigations undertaken in the mid-1970s by the Church Committee

So the seperation of church and state has been completely destroyed. I knew it was coming, but no-one would listen.

(sorry,sorry please go on)

It's much easier to push the Overton Window back to the center, given the structural impediments built into our constitutional system. That's all that has happened, the right has moved it better and farther than the left, because we let them.

Assumptions:

"a) The undertaking has the full support of public opinion in both the British Empire and the United States and consequently, the morale of British and American troops continues high.

b) Great Britain and the United states have full assistance from the Polish armed forces and can count upon the use of German manpower and what remains of German industrial capacity.

[...]

d) Russia allies herself with Japan.

[...]"

It also states that we would have to commit to total war with the Soviets, conquer their industrial centers, and bring about their political collapse.

That, plus the idea of using the Abomb to hit their leadership, which, ensconced in Moscow would be well beyond our bomber range (as was much of their industrial base, which had been moved beyond the Urals) makes Jake's concepts not just contra-factual, but contra-rational, as well. The reason the Germans lost WWII was that they overstretched their material and manpower resources, and found themselves between two forces that outnumbered and outpowered them over time. Had we decided to go against the Soviets then, we would have been pushing against a power with a huge defensive advantage, as well as the manpower resources to withstand an extended offensive and the ability to strike out against Allied resources in the Middle East and Asia. We could have won with a handful of Abombs and good intentions. Sure. We would not have had a Cold War, but a recurring Hot War.

As a wise man once said: "You fool! You fell victim to one of the classic blunders! The most famous is never get involved in a land war in Asia..."

I already said that, worse case scenario, we will have all the records needed to back-track and catch anyone who spoke with the NEXT 9/11 attackers. That’s at least SOMETHING useful, isn’t it? I was in Army Intelligence during the Korean War, and from what I’ve heard, the technology has improved since then. Maybe YOU will trust the next Democratic President to only do the right thing with this intelligence. Other than that, I really don’t know what else you want me to admit.

Did you even read my post? I presented MULTIPLE defenses against this that any real terrorist could use to protect their collaborators and I am certain that real terrorists already use these methods. I have read news articles describing things just like these.

Unless you can show me some technological reason why these defenses are no longer valid, we will have to assume that ONLY NON-TERRORISTS are being monitored by this program. Any non-terrorist would not use a defense, any terrorist would. QED.

I will not trust any president to do this kind of wiretapping, Republican or Democrat (I didn't like Clinton because of CALEA) or Green or Libertarian, because the system DOES NOT DO WHAT YOU THINK IT DOES.

Unless you can refute my factual points about the real technology in use, admit that the system is useless for catching real-life terrorists.

I don't take issue with Arvin's assessment, but you don't destroy the only political party that has any chance of pushing back, not now. That would be suicide. Patience. This will take years, and now is not the time for constitutional amendments doing away with the electoral college and other impediments. The center has collapsed and nature hates a vacuum but the level of polarization needs to subside.

Thanks for that.

I've been to your blog before...

So, you at least admit that nuking Russia before they got the A-Bomb would have avoided the Korean War, Cold War, and Vietnam War, right?

P.S. to prunes -- I have read every one of your posts -- I no longer have access to classified information (and even if I knew how the government is dealing with phone cards, pay phones, etc. I wouldn't tell you), so I can't answer your question. At least we can try to catch those TERRORISTS who are use traceable methods of communication -- better than DOING NOTHING!

Once you have the power that Yoo describes to treat the entire globe as the battlefield all that is left protecting our civil liberties is the definition of the enemy. With the US military already listing the "Grandmothers for Peace" and Quakers as possible threats and Karl Rove and company viewing political opposition as treason where does it leave us.

If you haven't gotten it by now, you never will. It's the same point everyone here is making. You are ridiculous. That's why I ridicule you. You are not to be taken seriously, but I confess, like any half dead tiny rodent, the cats around here will amuse themselves for hours playing with you. If you'd just play dead, or wake up and die right, your torture would end. Then again, perhaps the idea of torture, of being tortured, is what fascinates you