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Monday, May 14, 2007 12:00 AM

PBS's "Frontline: Spying on the Home Front"

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Monday, May 14, 2007 10:40 AM

Paul in KY:

I'm not senile (although I'd probably think that even if I were, right?). As I said, I lived through it AND have read everything about it since. I honestly think Truman made the right decision KNOWING WHAT HE KNEW THEN. Using perfect 20/20 hindsight, however, I think a reasonable counter-factual could be proposed that nuking Russia before they got the A-Bomb would have avoided the Korean War, Cold War, Vietnam War, other genocides AND 9/11. If anyone else wants to discuss that, please let me know.

P.S. Kitt -- you can see the several times I asked you the question about what the Roberts Court will do when you evaded it with "WTF?" and the like.

Monday, May 14, 2007 10:43 AM

Let's not feed Jake

Jake is the young idiot troll from Think Progress who thinks he was "marine in Korea"

Give Shoots his mouth off what he's asking for...

Even PBS, which has been screwed up like everything else Bushco has touched, couldn't in good conscience put that drivel from Frank "Batman" Gaffney and his little boy wonder, Alex Alexiev, on the air...

http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowlDC/newspapers/pbs_cans_documentary_56758.asp

http://rightweb.irc-online.org/profile/1183

Monday, May 14, 2007 10:45 AM

Attention Jake007

You are hereby accused of discussing terrorism. The evidence is right here in this comments section. (The preceding sentence was your trial.) You are guilty -- incredibly guilty. As a fierce Bush loyalist and cryptofascist, we know you'll agree it's your patriotic duty to proceed directly to your back yard and shoot yourself through the head. If you accidentally kill or injure your loved ones, that's collateral damage. Thanks loads.

Monday, May 14, 2007 10:46 AM

@Current Fool

I was simply referring to it as historians do.

Could you please name one historian who has titled the Supreme Court as the "Robert's Supreme Court"?

Monday, May 14, 2007 10:51 AM

America's inexcusable lapse

One of the increasingly inexcusable lapses of the Democratic Congress ...

If this administration is not impeached America will have commintted an inexcusable lapse. The NSA spying, the fraudulent war, the rank cronyism, the Nelnet scandal, the billions lost in no bid and cost+ contracts in Iraq, the transformation of the Justice Dept (and pretty much all US gov't) into a system designed to cultivate court partisans to the leader like something out of 16th century European monarchy, the lobbying, the Faith Based Iniative being used to funnel money into Religious Right backers, the corporate scandals, the lies on top of lies, the authorization of torture, the creation of a concentration camp and a gulag prison system ...

That Bush can leave office without impeachment would set a dangerous precedent. Reagan was let off the hook for his illegal war and what did we get from that ... the same people waging another illegal war.

Monday, May 14, 2007 10:51 AM

@Jake007

I think a reasonable counter-factual could be proposed that nuking Russia before they got the A-Bomb would have avoided the Korean War, Cold War, Vietnam War, other genocides AND 9/11.

Now we really are talking butterflies and hurricanes. What does this "counter-factual" even mean? Nuke what in Russia? Big place, you can't nuke all of it. Stop the whole cold war? When? What about China? What genocides? How would they be stopped? 9/11? A result of Soviet nuclear acquisition? Does that mean all this could have been averted by ditching David Greenglass? Wouldn't that have been a little more efficient? We were allowed to surveil him, he was working on a classified program.

I'm sure you can arrange a scenario in which all of this happens this way. You would need to prove that it was the only outcome to have a case. I don't think you can even prove it is the most likely. We don't kill millions of people on "reasonable counterfactuals." It's even bad for bidness.

Monday, May 14, 2007 10:51 AM

only semi senile?

you don’t think the ROBERTS Supreme Court would uphold empounding every Arab-American or otherwise suspected terrorist in the meantime?

That was his question, Kitt.

"Arab-American or otherwise suspected terrorist...”

A worldview in one quote.

PS: In your list of what benefits would accrue from nuking the Ruskies during WWII, you forgot... A PONY!!

Monday, May 14, 2007 10:53 AM

How about a dumb red brick insignia?

The stupidest letters that need to be pondered need awards. Can that be a neo-Splenda idea?

A red-brick or a sliced piece of red-raw-beef, or maybe a red dirty hoe's blouse, or a nylon-rip in a sock, or a skinny shrivelled hot-red-pepper, with a red-XXX warn-sign?

How about a smashed red - thumb that came about from laying a rock sidewalk? How about a photo of Bushido's ceo legal team, a doing a splosh-splash sound in a Middle East Red blood puddle? Or, a photo of the Dead Sea at a PINAC convention of all neocon's gnawing there at the salty bank on dead human appendages of slain warmonger's corpses?

I saw a redbird a few minutes ago..."Skippy or fly, no bother me, said all the natural birds in the air..." To me, she chirped, "won't snare me." She's 'ale be back again, because, it's the affection season and the red/blue/grey/brown (parrots and Keats) don't bother me but chase each other for a day of purist expressed, affection.

I think I imagined her (red bird) tweet-voice say or try to banter, 'um data a- sweetly...it sounded...

...Anything can be a little bit of the truth if we don't grave the fat Lie...

Monday, May 14, 2007 10:56 AM

His brain didn't go along for the ride

"As I said, I lived through it AND have read everything about it since."

How many languages can he speak and/or read?

Let's just concentrate on the one troll who always shoots his mouth off, not the one who thinks he's James Bond.

Monday, May 14, 2007 11:03 AM

Whenever the subject of eavesdropping arises....

I always like to post this link:

http://usinfo.state.gov/journals/itgic/1097/ijge/gj-7.htm

The protections of the Fourth Amendment are clear. The right to protection from unlawful searches is an indivisible American value. Two hundred years of court decisions have stood in defense of this fundamental right. The state's interest in effective crime-fighting should never vitiate the citizens' Bill of Rights

On-line communications technology is akin to the Wild West of the 19th century. To best settle this new frontier, we should unleash American know-how and ingenuity. The government's police-state policy on encryption is creating hindrances and hurdles that will eventually injure our ability to compete internationally. Government's role should be to break down barriers, to allow everyone to excel to their highest and best.

Who is this terrorist enabling turncoat?

Senator Ashcroft is a member of the Senate Commerce, Judiciary, and Foreign Relations Committees. His Web homepage is: http://www.senate.gov/~ashcroft/ and his e-mail address is: john_ashcroft@ashcroft.senate.gov

Just a reminder that this remains a non-partisan issue.

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