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Saturday, April 28, 2007 12:00 AM

A genuine political sea change?

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Saturday, April 28, 2007 08:11 AM

W Timberman

What is the name of the pathology for a man like Tenet who went along with the administration, kept his mouth shut, and allowed them to lie lie lie and lead us into a disastrous war, and now is trying to salvage his "good name" and justify his cowardice by claiming that he was scapegoated, all so that he can go on 60 minutes to sell his book?

Saturday, April 28, 2007 08:18 AM

The blunt word for men like Tenet is

"obsequious toady" but I am sure there is a more technical one out there ...

Saturday, April 28, 2007 08:20 AM

The tide may be rolling back out to sea ...

... the result of a critical mass of corruption and deceit and death, but eventually the tide will come back in – will we be ready next time? Trust me - I am ecstatic about what I am starting to see in this country after feeling like I was losing my sanity between 2000-2006. We are witnessing the beginning of the crumbling of this foundationless goon takeover, and to finally warm ourselves in some sunlight is welcome. But while we may sweep them out and reason and truth is ushered back in, as is human nature we will get complacent, and they will just slink away, regroup more powerfully like a bad virus, and again insinuate themselves into our political world. So take an internal picture of how we all feel now, this anger and activism, and keep it close to your heart – I think we all know this is everlasting war with the forces of immoral and unethical power and there is no finish line.

Saturday, April 28, 2007 08:20 AM

More good news

I'd like to add a little happiness from west of the Beltway to this sense of coming Spring. My own representative, the infamous Rick Renzi of Arizona Congressional District 1, seems about to get what he so richly deserves, and be forced to follow Tom DeLay into retirement.

It may be not be quite time to throw flowers from our balconies on passing strangers, but soon, I think....

Saturday, April 28, 2007 08:22 AM

Tenet

Toady isn't strong enough Nick. After the death of 3300+ soldiers, hundreds of thousands of Iraqis, he has the nuts to portray himself as the victim

Saturday, April 28, 2007 08:23 AM

High Broderism

High Broderism is not new. Though Richard Nixon’s malevolent character and history were clear at that point, David Broder’s columns after the 1968 election were exceptionally positive about the election results:

“The 1968 campaign year – so costly in lives, in emotion and in money – has turned out, ironically, to have produced an election in which nothing vital was lost and considerable of value may have been achieved.

“This is not to minimize the disappointment many of us feel at the defeat of individual candidates. But, as has been said here often before, the vital question this year was not which man or which party emerged in control of the White House and Congress. The question was whether at a time of abnormal stress, the public retained confidence in our system of self-government and recognized as legitimate the choice of those who must make decisions for us all.” (Washington Post, November 12, 1968)

And in February 1969, Mr. Broder praised the opening phase of the Nixon Administration:

“The outstanding characteristic of the Nixon Administration’s opening phase, as many commentators have noted, is its preoccupation with the machinery of decision-making and the consequent appearance of delay in grappling directly with the problems it must solve. . . .

“But even weighing all the risks, there is much to commend the effort Mr. Nixon is making to carve out for himself and his colleagues a period of time in which they can think about fundamental problems and procedures before they are enveloped by the day-to-day details of running the Government.” (Washington Post, February 4, 1969)

The optimism about the Nixon Administration was not, you will recall, warranted.

KSC

Saturday, April 28, 2007 08:23 AM

@ Lisa S and Nick R.

Obsequious toady works for me. Self-serving whiner also seems fitting. Coward for short.

Saturday, April 28, 2007 08:31 AM

ok ...

How about "jackals" ... pretty much what these opportunistic scavengers are.

Or we can just simplify and call them the modern-day GOP....

Saturday, April 28, 2007 08:33 AM

My favorite Tenet Quote (So far)

FROM NYT:

"Mr. Tenet takes blame for the flawed 2002 National Intelligence Estimate about Iraq’s weapons programs, calling the episode 'one of the lowest moments of my seven-year tenure.'"

Cooking up the intelligence to kick-off the worst adventure in U.S. history is just ONE of the lowest points in a seven tear tenure???!!!

Do tell. I'm dying to know what the other low points vying for the top spot could be. Can we have the list? How about just the top ten?

Now that we're getting things off our chest, I'm encouraged to share a low point in my own life. I guess, looking back, setting the law school building on fire when I was in college was one of the low point in my years as a student- well, my junior year, anyway. Poor kids, never had a chance. Worst part, I'm starting to think it might've effected my education adversely. I feal the eempakt even tooday!

At least Mr. Tenet got a book deal out of his low point, and a medal or something. All I got was suspicious looks.

Saturday, April 28, 2007 08:33 AM

But but but but but

Most of what has occurred in this country under the Bush presidency has been effectively concealed -- mostly due to a broken, corrupt media

Is that why Salon stopped covering Bush drug policy?

Just wondering...

Saturday, April 28, 2007 08:39 AM

Glen, I hope you are right,

I really do.

Saturday, April 28, 2007 08:45 AM

Slightly OT but mentioned by Glenn ...

Just a comment on something Glenn wrote in passing ...

<< I wasn't planning on posting today ... >>

Personally, I'd be lost without something from Glenn today to read and comment on, should I feel so inclined. One of the strengths, as I see it, here in these letters/debates is the civility that is presented by nearly all posters. Something that IMHO is solely lacking in today's extremely polarized environment, on both sides of the aisles, right and left.

Is it perfect? No, not by a long shot.

But I think it is quite tame overall here compared to other political blogs. Even the responses to ElephantMan and Shooter242(?) are IMO fairly subdued. Which I believe is crucial if we are to get out of this dark period with a real sense of purpose and national identity.

Are these guys/gals truly the trolls that some claim they are? Or do they really believe what they write here in opposition to Glenn's blog and the various posts commenting on his thoughts? It's not for me to say. I'm just happy that for the most part people here don't start lobbing bombs at them, as if that's the way to have a proper discussion or conversation about the issues that get raised.

Further, what I find truly amazing (and I think this goes to Glenn's point) is the sheer number of Military personnel, Generals, Majors, Pentagon Officials, hard-core Republican politicians, and ex-Bush administration people, who are speaking out against what this administration has done and continues to do.

I've been around long enough to see people-in-the-know that have always complained about other administrations, but never to the level of what we are seeing now.

Finally, we are all in this boat together, and I for one hope that we *all* can come to more of an agreement on how this country should be dealing with the issues presented.

Otherwise, unity will allude us as a people. And I think in the long run *that* is more dangerous and many realize.

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