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Saturday, April 21, 2007 12:00 AM

Right-wing blogs discover massive conspiracy to hide WMDs in Iraq

The embrace by leading neoconservatives and other war supporters of the most bizarre and deranged conspiracy theories speaks volumes about their credibility and judgment.

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Saturday, April 21, 2007 10:35 AM

Rayon Fog

Agreed, although the same can be said about many on the left as well.

I wonder if this is really an accurate and fair statement, for a couple of reasons.

There probably are stubborn, pig-headed people of all political persuasions but there really is no "left" in America. There should be. It may be making a comeback and it's about time, but if Arne Langsetmo, Paul Rosenberg, William Timberman and I, (apologies if I've left a leftist out), are exemplars of the left, you are talking about some pretty mild and mainstream leftism. And in that group, I'm probably the most pig-headed. The fact of the matter is, in spite of what Shooter242 might try to tell you, Glenn's readership is quite diverse and only in RightWingNutistan, (and maybe the ABC and MSM), is this even considered a "leftist blog".

Secondly, and to quote Paul R.

"[Altemeyer] concluded that LWAs are "as rare as hens teeth".

I think you will find fewer of them on the left, whatever the left is. I think I found one, however. His name is David Horowitz, but now he's on the right.

Saturday, April 21, 2007 10:40 AM

Re: Update 2

"with regard specifically to the issue of whether Saddam had WMDs, Bolton said: "I fully believe that all of the evidence on that is not yet in."

Bolton's correct--the physical evidence has been purely negative, and it continues to roll in, day after day.

Saturday, April 21, 2007 10:44 AM

Speaking of knee-jerk idiocy,

Glen, did you see MoDo's column today?

http://select.nytimes.com/2007/04/21/opinion/21dowd.html

How predictable was that? I could almost have guessed every word of the column before our predictable little ditz sat down at the computer in her content-free zone to write it.

Saturday, April 21, 2007 10:45 AM

"Mr Gaubatz is not some marginal figure." -- Melanie Phillips

Gaubatz is a man with a mission:
http://www.saneworks.us/mission.php

MISSION STATEMENT
The Society of Americans for National Existence or SANE is what its name declares: a society of sane Americans dedicated to preserving and strengthening America’s national existence. By national existence we mean what you normally mean when speaking of such matters. America is a unique people bound together through a commitment to America’s Judeo-Christian moral foundation and to an enduring faith and trust in G-d and in His Providence. America’s founding, and its greatness was neither accident nor staging ground for some better existence or world state. America was the handiwork of faithful Christians, mostly men, and almost entirely white, who ventured from Europe to create a nation in their image of a country existing as free men under G-d. The founding fathers understood that party-led parliaments and democracy were the worse form of government and sought to resist the movement that was soon to find fertile ground in France with the French Revolution, the end of which we can see now before our eyes.

Thus, these great men formed a republican form of government, predicated upon a constitution and built upon federalism, with a clear separation of powers at the national level between the executive, legislative and judicial branches, all in an effort to avoid the obvious failures of democracy and parliamentary rule.

So at its core, SANE is dedicated to the rejection of democracy and party rule . . .

. . . SANE’s Mission goes well beyond these rudimentary though necessary steps . . . Thus, SANE stands for the following: . . . A limited but strong national government to protect our Homeland against the foreign aggressor, including those foreigners who have penetrated our borders . . .

. . . But there is one guiding principle at work in all of this. Any world view, ideology, or –ism that promotes directly or indirectly the elimination of national existence and the establishment of a world state is our foe. So you can know at the start that liberalism (and this includes libertarianism) and Islam are in our sights.

- - MISSION STATEMENT of Gaubatz's political organization

"Mr Gaubatz is not some marginal figure." -- Melanie Phillips

Saturday, April 21, 2007 10:50 AM

Paul R.

I think you can go back as far as FDR.

Just for fun, if anyone is interested:

John Birch Society's Endless Enemies

Detailed overview of FBI documents and files pertaining to the John Birch Society.

http://birchers.blogspot.com/

Saturday, April 21, 2007 10:51 AM

Sysprog

I am now convinced that GG posted this piece a day early--the funny papers are supposed to come on Sunday.

Saturday, April 21, 2007 10:54 AM

Ummmmm,

Didn't those RW retards notice that in the delusions they're all linking to with Phillips article, there's one BIG caveat, namely, Gaubatz never actually saw these supposed WsMD himself-From Phillips blather/article

Between March and July 2003, he says, he was taken to four sites in southern Iraq -- two within Nasariyah, one 20 miles south and one near Basra -- which, he was told by numerous Iraqi sources, contained biological and chemical weapons, material for a nuclear programme and UN-proscribed missiles. He was, he says, in no doubt whatever that this was true. . . .

By speaking to a wide range of Iraqis, some of whom risked their lives by talking to him and whose accounts were provided in ignorance of each other, he built up a picture of the nuclear, chemical and biological materials they said were buried underground. . .

Not once is there any claim from Gaubatz that he actually SAW these weapons with his own eyes, yet the usual logic & reality deficient suspects are more than willing to make a big fuss over yet more claims of WsMD with absolutely nothing to back up those claims other than the person making them

Do the neocons STILL wonder why all right-thinking types mock, ridicule and laugh at them?

Saturday, April 21, 2007 11:00 AM

Mother of all WMD conspiracy theories

Wow. My favorite part is how the Russians and the Chinese are in on the "Islamic bomb." The Russian invasion of Afghanistan, its vicious treatment of the Chechen minority, the horrific Chechen terrorism attacks within Russia, China's treatment of its own Muslim minority -- maybe this would make such partnerships a little, um, problematic? But of course the Rightwing Street didn't have much trouble swallowing a partnership between Baathists and Salafists in the runup to the Iraqi war, either.

Didn't Judith Miller push this Saddam's-WMDs-got-moved-to-Syria theory a year ago? The winger nutjobs just can't face the fact that their hypotheses were flawed and their execution was even worse, and as a consequence we have killed a hundred thousand people, created a huge refugee crisis, destabilized an entire region, debased our international standing, squandered our military readiness and our finances, and still don't have a clue how to extricate ourselves. So the wingers go off and live in some fantasy land where Putin Islamic fundamentalists instead.

I'd laugh, except these people are running my country.

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