Letters to the Editor
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Luis Posada Carriles
Arne:
Both Cuba and Venezueala have requested that Posada be turned over for trial there.
Actually not. Cuba knows how a request from them would be spun, so they've bowed out.
Venezuela, however, has a long-standing extradition with us. And, since we all know what Bush thinks of the rule of law, that's an obvious non-starter.
This bold-faced return to the good terrorists/bad terrorists paradigm is how you know that "9/11 changed everything" has officially expired.
Except, of course, when the subject is changed to NSLs, or Guantanamo, or the Prisoner Formerly Known As The Dirty Bomber, etc., etc., etc.
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Politically Gets It
Politically Lost:
I recall very early on at Unclaimed Territory a particular phenomena that I would experience while reading some of various debates.
I don't think you're lost at all, and that you explained yourself quite well. The same thing used to happen to me when I tried to read all the comments; now I pick and choose amongst the ones who don't use the tactic you've described, and I'm a much happier reader.
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usmlrf:
People in other blogs might call a commenter such as yourself a "concern troll." I've never been a fan of cheesy internet shorthand and lingo, but I think that comes fairly close to describing the effect of your words.
Really, your post is quite incoherent. You concede that Krauthammer's column is hypocritical, but then you seem to condemn the way Glenn (others?) have pointed out the hypocrisy, or the particular type of hypocrisy they point out. In the end, your comment manages to say practically nothing at all, negating most of itself, save the portion where you scold people here for not playing sufficiently to "centrists."
You apparently have a great deal of concern for winning over them "reasonable" folk in "the middle," but you know what helps destroy liberals' arguments in the minds of the undecided? Hearing from voices such as yourself, again and again, proclaiming that they are "fellow leftists" but that, gosh darn, you know, they're awfully worried that the arguments expressed by other liberals are too extreme or ill-formed.
I don't think that's honest of you -- and even if it were, it certainly isn't as "helpful" as you might think.
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the girlification of the males at VT
shooter is timecube?! I should have guessed!
No, I'm just teasing. You tell 'em, Rambo.
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@ Paul Rosenburg
Arne: Both Cuba and Venezueala have requested that Posada be turned over for trial there.
Actually not. Cuba knows how a request from them would be spun, so they've bowed out.
Thanks for the correction. I do know that Cuba has publicly referred to him as a terrorist (and with seemingly good reason).
Luis Posada Carriles's return to Miami was, according to the Ess Eff Cronk, "hailed by some in Miami who view him as a freedom fighter".
Cheers,
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Politically Lost:
So, maybe that's the point of my thing here. It appears to be logic, but is actually a thin veneer of transparent bullshit usually used in a manner to obfuscate what is painfully obvious. Better practitioners of this art create doubt where none exists. They bend reality to the breaking point and once they've staked out what appears to be conflicting positions they find ways to entrench those positions deeper, never ever allowing the contradictions to penetrate the bubble they've created.
You pretty much just described a large portion of the legal community.
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Oh, man.
Even if it does not turn out that the shooter is Muslim, this is a demonstration to Muslim jihadists all over that it is extremely easy to shoot and kill multiple American college students.
LOL, A play in one act:
Terrorist: Oh, gee, I never thought of doing something that has been done countless times before by unrelated individuals with long-term, high-profile media coverage including made-for-TV movies after an appropriate time period has passed, true crime books, the common phrase "going postal", Stephen King short stories, anecdotes from drill sargeants, and the (suckified) movie Elephant.
Thank god my Islamic* brother was able to enlighten me with this ingenious, intricate plot!
*not really
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@ DCLaw
Wouldn't you know it, I've got one more year before I take the bar exam.
So, maybe I just described myself.
I guess I'm going to have to work I'm my thin veneer.
Kidding aside, I would posit that reputation for such things as specious logic and dishonest arguments may work well for unsuspecting clients but, I imagine judges would would have little patience for such.
I'm thinking of Kyle Samson's e-mail where he's talking about stalling the senate on appointing US attorney's without senate confirmation and he uses the phrase in quotes "good faith".
I was deeply, deeply sickened and downright frightened by that. My justice department was not acting in good faith? If the chief of staff to the Attorney General of the United States felt comfortable in breaching his oath like that...
I did notice that in his opening testimony before the judiciary committee that he repeatedly said that he was acting in good faith. Uhm, yeah...that's why you resigned. I think the ABA should have a gander at these guys licenses.
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Politically Lost
Kidding aside, I would posit that reputation for such things as specious logic and dishonest arguments may work well for unsuspecting clients but, I imagine judges would would have little patience for such.
I'm thinking of Kyle Samson's e-mail where he's talking about stalling the senate on appointing US attorney's without senate confirmation and he uses the phrase in quotes "good faith".
That's the difference between an expert and a hack -- the ability to spin a weak (or even utterly baseless) argument into one that can convince even a seasoned judge. If you have any doubt that this can be done... well... I'm sure you've read plenty of court decisions in your legal studies.
What amazes me is that Mr. Samson would record such naked thoughts, in an email no less. Much like there's a difference between expert and hack lawyers, there's a difference between smart and not-so-smart bureaucrats.
Makes me wonder what kind of amazing stuff is in all those "lost" RNC emails.
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@ DClaw1
What amazes me is that Mr. Samson would record such naked thoughts, in an email no less. Much like there's a difference between expert and hack lawyers, there's a difference between smart and not-so-smart bureaucrats.
Makes me wonder what kind of amazing stuff is in all those "lost" RNC emails.
Indeed. I bet they though those were untouchable. And they have just the hubris (and consequent carelessness) to lay it all out there,
Cheers,