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Thursday, April 12, 2007 12:00 AM

The Bush administration's terrible luck with finding documents

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Thursday, April 12, 2007 03:59 PM

Yo Vinny,

who have an opinion, a modem, and a bathrobe.

Modem? Dude, it's 2007. Use 'the Google' if you're not sure.

When someone is trying to talk high tech, they should at least know what current high tech is. Otherwise they seem as lost as Atlantis.

Thursday, April 12, 2007 05:10 PM

L.W.M

How Self-Important Is Brian Williams?

I've heard him described as "the only man in America that can strut sitting down".

Thursday, April 12, 2007 05:14 PM

But CLINTON did it! That makes it legal!

CREW alleges that millions of White House emails are missing.
CREW alleges that millions of White House emails are missing.
http://citizensforethics.org/node/27607

. . . Executive Office of the President (EOP) has lost over five million emails generated between March 2003 and October 2005. The White House counsel's office was advised of these problems in 2005 and CREW has been told that the White House was given a plan of action to recover these emails, but to date nothing has been done . . .
. . . two confidential sources independently informed CREW that the administration abandoned a plan to recover more than five million missing emails . . .

Of course, this isn't a crime, nor even unethical, because the Clinton White House also lost emails (well, not MILLIONS of em, but it's the principle that counts: if Clinton did it then it's proper, even though, back when Clinton did it, the GOP said it was a crime.)

Thursday, April 12, 2007 05:17 PM

Modems

Modem? Dude, it's 2007. Use 'the Google' if you're not sure.

When someone is trying to talk high tech, they should at least know what current high tech is. Otherwise they seem as lost as Atlantis.

Yeah! Good point. Vinny's much more likely to be using Cable or DSL, and therefore a cablemodem or DSL modem.

Sometime's its better just to keep quiet.

Thursday, April 12, 2007 05:34 PM

More from CREW

More from CREW (regarding the internal White House email system, not the outside accounts) :

The Bush administration discontinued the [Automated Records Management System], implemented by the Clinton administration in 1994 to fulfill its record keeping requirements.

In other words, they simply switched off the archiving of the email servers. Period.

Of course, an email message or an entire email sub-folder could be archived, as wanted, by copying it to a file server, but emails on a file server can easily be modified -- the emails aren't really "archived" (that is, preserved) in the usual sense.

Thursday, April 12, 2007 05:50 PM

Harriet Miers

Yet more, from CREW's website :

According to CREW's sources, in October 2005, the Office of Administration ("OA") . . . undertook a detailed analysis of the issue, which revealed that between March 2003 and October 2005, there were hundreds of days in which emails were missing for one or more of the EOP [Executive Office of the President] components subject to the PRA [Presidential Records Act]. The OA estimated that roughly over five million email messages were missing. Although the White House Counsel (then Harriet Miers) was provided a detailed briefing of this analysis and a plan of acction to recover the missing email was developed, the plan has never been executed. . . .
Thursday, April 12, 2007 05:58 PM

It may not be that simple, gabriel 13

In large mail systems, it's common for the mail server to be a UNIX system, not an Intel box. A UNIX system, in a similar fashion to MSDOS, "deletes" a file by deleting the catalog pointer to the file content. But on a busy system, it may not be long before the released space is overwritten by something else. Once that happens, it truly takes forensic analysis to attempt to recreate data that has been overwritten.

In my experience, the primary purpose of server backups is to allow recovery from system failure, or disaster recovery. This type of backup is not intended to be a continuous record of every email. Backups of this type typically have a retention period of 1 or 2 months.

If there is a legal requirement to hold records for longer, then there should be a separate set of backups created to meet that requirement. These backups are typically stored off-site with a vaulting company. (Which begs the question, where are the off-site backups for the Republican Party?)

If a business has a defined document retention policy, it is usually to retain documents for no longer than the legal minimum. Records are destroyed as soon after the expiration date as possible--precisely to prevent any fishing expeditions by litigious customers. A court order can halt the record destruction process, but until the order is received, all legally allowed document destruction will continue.

Thursday, April 12, 2007 06:17 PM

Evil

and shameless.

Thursday, April 12, 2007 06:24 PM

P.R.A. (44 U.S.C. Chapter 22) - - The Law? or just a suggestion?

http://archives.gov/about/laws/presidential-records.html

§ 2202. Ownership of Presidential records
The United States shall reserve and retain complete ownership, possession, and control of Presidential records; and such records shall be administered in accordance with the provisions of this chapter.

§ 2203. Management and custody of Presidential records
(a) Through the implementation of records management controls and other necessary actions, the President shall take all such steps as may be necessary to assure that the activities, deliberations, decisions, and policies that reflect the performance of his constitutional, statutory, or other official or ceremonial duties are adequately documented and that such records are maintained as Presidential records pursuant to the requirements of this section and other provisions of law.

There are no penalties listed within chapter 22.
What penalties can be imposed, then, other than impeachment?

Thursday, April 12, 2007 06:31 PM

Bahdge? We don't have to show you no stinkin' bahdge.

Alfonso Bedoya to Humphrey Bogart in "The Treasure of the Sierra Madres".

Thursday, April 12, 2007 06:36 PM

April 24, 2000

http://archives.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/04/24/email.subpoena

Independent counsel subpoenas records in White House e-mail probe
April 24, 2000
WASHINGTON (CNN) - Independent Counsel Robert Ray has subpoenaed records from the National Archives in an attempt to determine whether the White House deliberately withheld electronic mail messages in an attempt to stymie investigations pertaining to the Monica Lewinsky affair and other Clinton Administration controversies, a government official told CNN on Monday.

The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said the subpoena was issued a week ago. Ray, the successor to Independent Counsel Ken Starr . . .

. . . Technical problem led to controversy

At issue is a technical problem that may have occurred as early as 1994 in the White House e-mail archiving system -- an automated record management system known as "ARMS" -- that resulted in the improper scanning, logging and archiving of incoming, external e-mails to nearly 500 White House personnel, many of them high-ranking.

The White House has said that the technical problem may have kept some e-mail files -- which some estimate to number in the hundreds of thousands -- from being searched or handed over in response to a series of subpoenas issued by a variety of investigators.
- - CNN

The difference between then and now is that the Clinton White House had glitches with "ARMS" but the Bush White House simply switched "ARMS" off. They completely disabled it. That's not a glitch.

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