Letters to the Editor
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ondelette
In answer to you question 'way back when this thread was fully and gratifyingly OT, the name is ElBRidge, not Eldridge, Gerry, one of the players in the debating and framing of the Constitution.
A great account of the heroic struggle against the Federalists at this time by those (The Bill of Rights guys) who were on a journey to a different vision of a republic, I highly recommend Saul Cornell's The Other Founders: Anti-Federalism & the Dissenting Tradition in America, 1788-1828.
There was no Pentecostal flame that enlightened these guys with a common voice in Philadelphia in 1787-88, and the struggle still goes on. For an idea of just how fractious and contentious these days were, I recommend Joann B. Freeman's Affairs of Honor: National Politics in the New Republic.
Having added my 4.5 cents, I'm outa here until the Bible guy leaves, like he said he would shumbles of posts ago, and this thread is back OT.
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Jim C
The first thing I notice in the "59 deceits of Michael Moore" is that they fail to mention the fact that it was Bush's cousin, James Ellis, who was leading the team which called the election for Bush. The "59 deceits" also fails to mention that Ellis called Bush five times on election eve.
That Fox would place a direct relative of one of the candidates in such a sensitive position speaks volumes of their "objectivity".
Imagine if you will that a cousin of Al Gore was head of the projection team at CNN and that he had called the election for Gore after speaking with Gore five times that evening.
Would that make you even the slightest bit suspicious?
http://archives.cnn.com/2000/ALLPOLITICS/stories/12/12/tv.foxexecutive.ap/
Fox executive spoke five times with cousin Bush on Election Night
December 12, 2000
Web posted at: 9:24 AM EST (1424 GMT)
NEW YORK (AP) -- The head of Fox's projection team said he spoke five times with his cousin, George W. Bush, on election night but insists he did not give out confidential exit poll information. Bush got that information elsewhere, he said.
John Ellis, an election night consultant for Fox, was hired by Inside.com to write an account of what happened that night; it was posted on the Web site Monday. Ellis is becoming a regular columnist for the online publication's new magazine, Inside.
Publicity about his relationship to Bush has proved an embarrassment to Fox, whose executives were angry with him Monday for writing about it. The network is still investigating whether Ellis, who was working on a temporary contract, provided the Bush campaign with insider data.
The fact that this "debunking" of Michael Moore would leave out such a salient fact leads me to believe that the rest of the "debunking" is bunk also.
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Jimmy C the Pharisee
thanks for clearing that up, that Christ condones slavery. Anything for the Holy Dollar, eh, Jimmy C.? What was that about the camel and the needle's eye? Oh, yeah, the Bible is literal, so it couldn't be a metaphor. Jesus would never use symbolism or metaphor, right Jimmy? You and your Pharisee brethren are in for a really big surprise in the hereafter. "whosoever does this to one of the least of these, my children, has done it unto Me." Explain that away. Having some golden calf for dinner? Hear they're yummy, especially if they're raised by slaves. Truly amazing, Murkan "christianity". It's a mockery. No wonder the world disbelieves.
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What a circus!
I'm not sure there's any use in pointing out the ridiculousness of American mass media any more. Anyone with a brain realizes it and gets their information from foreign media and the internet; the rest of the country is probably a lost cause if they haven't figured out by now that US news is simply commercialism, gossip, and various strains of wacko zionist hysteria.
If one cares to look for an explanation, the interests of the owners of these huge media corporations and the sources of their advertising dollars are enough. There's also the several-decades long tradition of political imbecility and cultural vapidity in this country. Then the fact that the aforementioned 30% of the US or so really have drunk the "they're coming to get us and make us all wear burkas" kool-aid, and will probably go to the grave believing it. This is an audience that will not go away any time soon.
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Tom Payne
tom payne
What are you talking about, Tom? Did you not read the article, did you not read anything or comprehend what I have said? The Bible isn’t condoning slavery and neither is Christ and neither am I. The Bible does deal with relationships between people and a Christian servant must still be Christian even if their master on earth is terrible. This applies also to employer/employee relationships.
"whosoever does this to one of the least of these, my children, has done it unto Me." Explain that away.
I know exactly what that means, do you? Christ here is talking about charity, specifically to His people, the Jews, and the ingrafted Gentile beleivers. Ultimately, reward in Heaven will be judged by how we treated His people.
I have a question for you, Tom, do you condone sin? Do you tell people about sin and the cost of sin?
Here’s a perfect example of the kind of thin I have been talking about all along when I say that I want the sinner to turn from the sin but love the person…
John 8:1-11
1 Jesus went unto the mount of Olives. 2 And early in the morning he came again into the temple, and all the people came unto him; and he sat down, and taught them. 3 And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst, 4 They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act. 5 Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou? 6 This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not. 7 So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her. 8 And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground. 9 And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst. 10 When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee? 11 She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.
Clearly, Jesus knows what the woman has done, forgives, her and tells her….what class? …..go and sin NO MORE.
This is my message taken right from scripture.
If you’re not willing to read the scripture , then your knowledge will not increase. Please go back and read it again. Pray first, so that ye may understand the words.