Since my interpretations of the Bible seem in error to you, I would ask you to interpret Hebrews 12:7-11 for us

5 And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him: 6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth. 7 If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not? 8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons. 9 Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live? 10 For they verily for a few days chastened us after their own pleasure; but he for our profit, that we might be partakers of his holiness. 11 Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby

Is this describing discipline by God for sinning and effects of it on the believer or am I just interpreting this wrong?

"...Pelosi's trip might be a "felony...")

I point you to the appropriate law:

The Logan Act (US Code 18, Part I, Chapter 45, Section 953) reads:

"Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.This section shall not abridge the right of a citizen to apply, himself or his agent, to any foreign government or the agents thereof for redress of any injury which he may have sustained from such government or any of its agents or subjects."

Tom Lantos, her Calif travelling "buddy" said, “We have an alternative Democratic foreign policy. I view my job as beginning with restoring overseas credibility and respect for the United States.”

Sounds like a broken law to me. Prosecute! Obey the law.

Wow you are straight up retarded. Too bad.

Methinks we are close to being of one mind here. God does not "punish" wong choices. The choices are what they are. The consequences are a function of free will. To argue the other side is to say that there's no difference between a caress and blunt trauma. Choices have consequences. Truth is a complex of consequences. It would be an easier world if one could plug in the choices and have the consequence be obvious. That is not the real world, even if you choose to omit God from the equation.

Unless you believe, like JimC does that god punishes men for making "wrong" choices.

There is no inconsistency between what you're saying and what i'm saying. If you think there is you're the one not getting it.

At least you cop your chops from the Last Whole Earth Catalogue. What about free will don't you get. Free. Given. Outcome indeterminate. From your perspective, it seems, if men make false choices, or reject God, it's God's fault because He created humanity. A predetermined result isn't freedom. Tough concept. Tough planet.

There is no such thing as liberal Moslem press, moron. Their problem with Ms Pelosi, just like republikans, is that she's an uppity woman. Y'all like 'em vacant eyed and xanexed up like Laura. Of course, if you're married to that war criminal, I guess all the medication you can get is only understandable. Liberal Arab press: is that like "compassionate conservative"? Duh.

God can be omnipotent, and man can have free will, but god can't be omnipotent, give man free will and then be disappointed in what he gets. It's not the omnipotence i take issue with, its the alleged disappointment of an "omnipotent" god. I'd eplain further but i'm not sure it's worth it.

Arne, the ease with which they get off the hook makes it the perfect religion for bigots like our boy JimC. Imagine all the killers running around heaven who got there by just saying the magic words. I bet they'd be fun to live next to on Golden Ave.

cov·et /ˈkʌvɪt/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[kuhv-it] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation

–verb (used with object) 1. to desire wrongfully, inordinately, or without due regard for the rights of others: to covet another's property.

The list is cumulative, if you meet any of the conditions then you are guilty of covetousness.

That is why Jimmy Carter confessed to sinning in his heart, he knew that he had coveted at least one attractive woman.

Jimmy Carter is an honest Christian, apparently a rare beast indeed.

It's a simple question, try it w/o screaming insults at. So glad the new policy has ushered in a new era.

To take the example further, your mom has a special hand soap that once you wash with it, your hands will never get dirty no matter what you get yourself into, your hands will no longer be stained with the filth and never need to be washed again.

You're friggin' delusional. Hate to say it, Ted Haggar... -- umm, sorry, JimC, but the jails are filled with Xtians. In fact, Xtians commit crimes in abundance ... even the "born again". No "magic soap". But just axe-murder away, and then be "reborn", "washed in the blood of the Lamb [and whoever or whatever else you've hacked to pieces]", and there ya go. Pretty damn easy 'religion' if you ask me. Too easy. Sounds to me like a great 'excuse' to be bad ... and then pretend afterwards that you're just like everyone, and you're really good and virtuous despite the entrails handing from your arms, because you weeewy wuvvvvv Jaaaayyyyzzzuuzz, so can't we go a little easy on you? The answer is "no", Jim. I'm not trying to convince you of anything (that's obviously impossible); I'm just trying to tell you what's in store for you if I'm on your jury or parole board.

Cheers,

Cheers,