Letters to the Editor
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Now. We go to the Pentagon's "official" report..."The Honor Role of the Dead."
The News Hour listed 8-more..DEAD. ages, 22.22.28.22.28.20.23.an 25. Not counting the conservative estimates of 60,000 Iraqi's, or more like 700,000,000 more...or, plus, the 3,218 American on the official Honor Role of the "coma's" Dead. THIS is Not counting, the private non-military armed-civilian contractors paid by Halibut's Association's. Or. the post-trauma a world must learn to process. Everywhere.
And Mr. GWB reads a prey-prepared script...4-years later, and assures 'us' a Safe-Haven for 'terrorist" exist in Afghanistan and Iraq, spreading forth into Iran? So, we may assume we need to bomb young women who carry hope, a fetus conceived in the womb...Gotta' Be bombed in Iran?
So, if one day in the Middle East slaughter Field was not enough. "We send our "brave troops" back for a third or fourth tour? So, 4--years later, we can live in a Safe-Homestead in U.S.A.'s American-Safe-Refuge?
Bambi's Away 'Um deers here, (also: drop bombs on all the world's population's of The Middle East? So, we civil noons can use militarism mindset and Bomb de'Whole-Wide-World via...usage of our Air Force's Arsenal's? 'Um YOU mean the "Liberal" state-side war-critics, here in the blessed U.S.A. 'um, too?
I must admit, I am getting more confused after listening to the storytelling via The Nightly News. Are we in the 700-hundred B.C.E. nightly-news editor-MSM's era?
Holy Homer, help us. We need to sing and learn to play our lyre's? I go konk out and play dead. thanks.
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Argument by anecdote is a symptom
The symptoms are not insignificant, but they don't get to the root cause - in this case" the posture of victim hood taken by the right wing. "They" this and "they" that is the classic argument of victim hood; the creation of an amorphous bogeyman that serves a couple of purposes:
1) garners sympathy of the "victim’s" position, in this case the wingnut ideology.
2) masks the "victim’s" true identity, in case the subversive, anti-American nature of the wingnut's positions and ideology.
3) makes bad guys out people and positions that may not be bad at all - just the opposite in this case.
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Define "America"
Maybe a concerted effort should be made to counter the right-wing claims on "America," "Americans," etc. They clearly DON'T speak for a majority of US citizens re: Iraq, and you can make the case they don't speak for a majority on a host of other issues.
And, while it would be more difficult, I think a similar effort should be made to counter the claims of so-called "Christians," who are in fact anything but.
Challenging them on their claims could be productive, or, at the very least, could put them on the defensive...
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Most People are Fooled
People like Barone and Kurtz just think most people are stupid. It seems to take so long for the mass of folks in the polls to swing towards reality, but I think it's happening.
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gak at 6:24:07 convinced me my pillow is lumpy?
One silent student in any classroom may be a potential 'teacher' that proves to be far superior than the 'teacher.'
I've ben thinking of THIS all damn ding day.
THEY.
They that haue powre to hurt, and will doe none,
That doe not do the thing, they mofit do fhowe,
Who mouing others, are themfeluce as ftone,
Vnmooued, could, and to temptation flows,
They rightly di inherrit heauens graces.
And husband natures ritches from expence,
They are the Lords and owners of their faces,
Others, but flewards of their exgellences,
The fommers flowre is to the fommer fweet,
Thought to it felte, it onely liue and die,
But if that flowre with bafe infection meete,
The bafeft weed out-braues his dignity:
For fweeteft things turne fowreft by their deedes,
Lillies that fefter, fmell far worfe than weeds.
"THEY." They that have the power to hurt, and do no harm. None. "They" disdain. "They" love to hurt. on and on...the hurt can increase...'lillies that fester smell far worst than weeds.'----Sonnet of w.s.
o, methink i turn the pillow case inside-out? 2X2= o?
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Kurtz--Still slanted
I'm with Bill Zimmerman and robbo, previous commenters. It's a sign that we are getting through, but Kurtz (and the editorial decision-makers who run one story off page one and bury the other inside the paper) is applying such a slanted standard of outrage that it's barely a tilt back toward the center.
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Argument by Anecdote
Every day a great post; so many thanks for all of them. On today's issue, I think there's a big difference between people who are sorry the Afghans missed Cheney and people who want to kill Jimmy Carter. Cheney is now, right now, destroying our Constitution, our Bill of Rights, and every principle on which this country was founded. Carter is a private person with no power whatsoever, exercising the rights that each of us should have to do what we think proper within the bounds of the law. We may not agree with Carter, but he does not impose his will on any of us or affect any of our lives or rights. Cheney, by contrast, deprives all of us of rights our founders guaranteed to us. Try an analogy to the German officers who tried unsuccessfully to kill Hitler. If you are a Bushie, or if you are anyone at all, where does that take you?
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Same tactic used against the Muslim world
Glenn Greenwald is quite right about this tactic. I often notice the same thing with articles on the Muslim world: take some genuinely crazy statement often out of a Saudi newspaper and hold it up as representative of the Muslim world. Never mind that huge numbers of Muslims think the Saudis are lunatics and would be appalled to see a Saudi form of society imposed on their own countries.
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you are half right about this...
Like good little authoritarians, people like Barone conflate allegiance to their Leader with allegiance to the country, and therefore equate "blaming Bush" with "blaming America."
sorry, but you're evading the fact that lots of liberals *do* blame america -- and with good reason. in allowing the invasion of iraq, and the consequent collapse of that country, america did something DISGUSTINGLY IMMORAL!!! it is COMPLETELY SICK WHAT WE HAVE DONE TO THE IRAQI PEOPLE!!! so are we just blaming bush? no! americans elected him a year and a half after this outrage began -- and they did so because they were too damn lazy and self-satisfied to bother trying to find out what was really going on -- even though their country was destroying another. so do we blame america? DAMN F*CKING RIGHT (and for plenty of other things too...)