"I want to be invisible. I do guerrilla warfare. I paint my face and travel at night. You don't know it's over until you're in a body bag" - Ralph Reed

Keep thinking he doesn't mean it, and see what happens to the country.

See what happens if another 9/11 happens. If President Bush starts a war with Iran, that may become more likely. Scott Ritter thinks its a certainty that we will start a war with Iran, and if we do that some terrorist will end up setting off a bomb here.

Here's what paranoid crazy nut job General Tommy Franks had so say about such a thing happening

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Franks

According to Time magazine, on November 21, 2003, Tommy Franks said that in the event of another terrorist attack, American Constitutional liberties might be discarded by popular demand in favor of a military state. His quote:

Discussing the hypothetical dangers posed to the U.S. in the wake of the September 11, 2001 attacks, Franks said that “the worst thing that could happen” is if terrorists acquire and then use a biological, chemical or nuclear weapon that inflicts heavy casualties.

If that happens, Franks said, “... the Western world, the free world, loses what it cherishes most, and that is freedom and liberty we’ve seen for a couple of hundred years in this grand experiment that we call democracy.”

Franks then offered “in a practical sense” what he thinks would happen in the aftermath of such an attack.

“It means the potential of a weapon of mass destruction and a terrorist, massive, casualty-producing event somewhere in the Western world – it may be in the United States of America – that causes our population to question our own Constitution and to begin to militarize our country in order to avoid a repeat of another mass, casualty-producing event. Which in fact, then begins to unravel the fabric of our Constitution. Two steps, very, very important.”

Why is General Tommy Franks such an unhinged liberal moonbat?

O'Reilly's rhetoric is helping Ralph Reed sneak up on "us".

Whew. I'm all argued out for today. I just wanted to point this out to make you feel better about where we are headed as a country:

Ralph Reed, once head of the Christian coalition and radical-right king maker, couldn't even win the primary for Lt. Governor of Georgia in 2006!! Georgia is a bright red state. He had piles of cash.

That's how far these conservative clowns (No offense intended clownsense. I'm a big fan of the clowns and their verse.) have fallen.

TGIF!

Look, I don't give a shit about holding people responsible for what they believe. What I care about is what consequences might arise from them believing it. -- m.b.f

Fair enough. So do I, for that matter, but truly, the consequences which might arise aren't entirely under the control of those who wish us ill, or who misrepresent what we believe in. We'll have -- are having -- our say, after all.

My point was simply that group identities are not the same as individual ones, and that little good comes of confusing the two.

I would have thought it obvious, but if it wasn't, let me state it unequivocally: I didn't for a moment intend to imply that you'd advocate killing policemen, or support those who do. My point was that demonization is/was far more common on our side of the fence than we generally admit, and is never helpful, regardless of who employs it. I'm not talking about satire, either, or polemics in general, as long as everyone understands that calling folks cute names which seem to encapsulate what we despise about their beliefs or attitudes is always to be taken with a grain of salt.

Still, you are missing the big picture. Our country was knocked off balance by 9/11. It could be knocked off balance again in the future. But the ship is righting itself.

* Democrats are in the majority.

* George Bush has negotiated a deal with North Korea.

* George Bush is negotiating with Syria and Iran.

* It is likely that our troops will begin withdrawing from Iraq within the next 12 months.

* By all accounts, Dick Cheney has been marginalized within the administration. His muscle, Scooter Libby, is gone.

* Don Rumsfeld is gone. Most of his generals are gone. The new defense secretary is not considered a neocon.

* Doug Feith is gone.

* The neocon movement is in tatters.

* The leading candidate for the Republican nomination is Rudy Giuliani. Despite his best conservative impression, he is a liberal. He nominated liberal judges. He was for gay marriage. He was for public funding of abortions. He was strongly for gun control.

We still have work to do in repairing the damage to our foreign policy, reputation and Constitution. Bush could do yet more damage.

But, while it makes for good book-jacket copy, we are hardly marching toward authoritarianism. You should have more faith in America, red and blue. Some Bush dead-enders remain, but they are in the minority.

Yep, the country is correcting course, just like it did in '92. The country is correcting course the way a bottle floating in the gulf stream corrects course ... it may being going one way or the other at any given moment ... but its still heading the same way.

Your scare-mongering about the right is no different than the neocons' scare-mongering about the terrorist hordes on our doorstep.

Right, because neoconservatives don't have a political ideology that looks upon democracy with contempt, and because neoconservatives in power haven't been dismantling the Constitution. That Yoo theory ... no big deal.

Just like Article 48 of the Weimar Republic was no big deal. I'm glad there were no paranoid nut jobs back then to say that Article 48 might be used by anti-democratic forces to install a dictatorship. Good thing.

War radicalizes people. It polarizes. It divides. So why declare war on conservatives?

We shouldn't declare "war" on conservatives. We should say that people who don't believe in democracy don't believe in democracy. And when people who don't believe in democracy are representative of a movement in total, we should say the movement does not believe in democracy.

The goal is that people who do believe in democracy will leave the movement, and then the movement will not be in a position to dismantle democracy.

That IS how democracy works. With, you know, pointing out to people that they are voting for people who will take their freedoms away.

What seems to be being said, although some might realize it, is that "we" shouldn't point that out just because Hannity, Malkin, Coulter, Limbaugh, etc are making that accusation against "liberals."

And so now we've come full circle. We see why them doing that works. Now we see why Howard Kurtz is a soft-ware program.

They've already lost. Find common ground with the moderates and move on

As indicated by the rejection of their foreign policy objectives by those who are in a position to carry them out.