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Sunday, Nov 8, 2009
In large part was created by the United States by propping up Batista, who plundered the Cuban people.
How do we know that all if not most of these comments that were posted with these "deathwishes" are not right wingers posing as liberals? -- Steambomb
Well, read through the comments here, and at virtually every other liberal blog. You will see, among the contortions aimed now at making them seem less outrageous, assertions that the Cheney comments were not so bad, really. He is guilty of killing innocents and leading us into an immoral war, many of them say, so would not the world be a better place without him? Besides, these are "totalitarians" not human beings. We are saving democracy, not advocating murder.
Are all these folks trolls?
Others say-- often adding a little tongue-in-cheek spin to create plausible deniability -- that their first response was not much different from the Cheney commenters'.
I can find you the references if you can't.
Do trolls exist? Sure. Don't you think that Huff Po has the resources and technology to expose trolls and shills if they need to? They have IP addresses. They have trails.
If even one of these comments came from a liberal, don't you denounce it?
The right scored some easy points. You give them a windfall when your first reaction is to point a finger somewhere other than at the few idiots in our midst.
The right doesn't need a grand plan to plant comments when there are always idiots willing to cross the lines.
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_030107/content/01125101.guest.html
Another story. This is so dear to my heart. This was in the Atlanta Urinal-Constipation on the 26th of February, so two or three days ago. The headline: “Cars Improved the Air.” This is something that I don't mention enough. I've talked about this over the course of the many stellar years of this program's eminence. However, it doesn't come up enough. This is by Dwight R. Lee: “The motto of all environmentalists should be ‘Thank goodness for the internal combustion engine.’” But it's not, is it? The internal combustion engine is enemy #1, is it not? The internal combustion engine is the target. Fossil fuels are burned by the internal combustion engine! For those of you in Rio Linda, well...you've got three or four of them stacked up on concrete blocks in front of your house.
“The abuse heaped on the internal combustion engine by environmentalists was never justified. But a recent story on cow flatulence in the British newspaper, The Independent, makes the environmental benefits from gasoline-powered engines even more obvious. Based on a recent study by the Food and Agricultural Organization, The Independent reports that "livestock are responsible for 18 percent of the greenhouse gases that cause global warming.” Remember we discussed yesterday with Roy Spencer that the greenhouse effect is a natural thing. Many of you believe that the greenhouse effect is something that never existed on the planet until Americans invented the automobile and started driving around and building smokestacks and polluting. That's not true.
The point is that “livestock are responsible for 18 percent of the greenhouse gases that cause global warming, more than cars, planes and all other forms of transport put together,” and that is true. “Long before global warming became an environmental concern, however, the move from the power provided by animals to that provided by gasoline had greatly improved the environment. The emissions that came out of the tailpipes of horses were much more lethal pollutants that those now coming out of the tailpipes of cars. Horse emissions did more than make our town and cities stink; they spread fly-borne diseases and polluted water supplies that killed people at a far greater rate than the pollution from cars and trucks ever have.” That is Oh-so-true.
Our favorite thing, conventional wisdom, says that automobiles, the internal combustion engine had been an environmental disaster. This guy has the gonads to ask, “Compared to what?” You watch Westerns, and those things are sanitized. You don't understand that back in the old days when the horse and buggy or the horse was the primary mode of transportation, the ox or what have you, manure was everywhere. It was in the streets. You had flies. You had insects flying around. It stunk. Why do you think the buggy whip was eventually gotten rid of? Human beings are always trying to improve their standards of living. Human beings have always, since the beginning of time, tried to improve their lifestyles. They have tried -- and they have sought and they've succeeded -- in finding a more advanced way of living. It is those advances which are now coming under attack by global warming hysterics, hoaxers and plain, out-and-out liars.
That's just too ridiculous to care about, correct? How many listeners does Limbaugh have? 8 million, isn't it? How many of those 8 million people listen to him and believe that utter bullshit because it "fit(s) in with what is going on" with "liberals". How many people, even after its pointed out that Limbaugh is completely and utterly factually wrong will say its still "true in principle."
Its "true in principle" and it "fit(s) in with what is going on" are the responses of Henry Ford and Adolph Hitler to being told that the Protocols of the Elders of Zion was a forgery.
We can laugh at some KKK/neonazi when we see them on tv spouting ridiculous nonsense about " the Jews" or "the blacks" because we know they are a marginalized figure that has little or no chance at doing harm ... we can afford to laugh. Can we afford to laugh at Limbaugh? Is Limbaugh a margnialized figure with little to no chance at doing harm, at influencing people to do harm.
Remember what Limbaugh said during the Clinton years:
The second violent American revolution is just about - I got my fingers about a fourth of an inch apart - is just about that far away. Because these people are sick and tired of a bunch of beuracrats in Washington driving into town and telling them what they can and can't do
Is that something we can afford to laugh at? Did anything happen during the Clinton years that might make us think that's nothing to laugh at?
Much of the initial coverage about Fort Hood turned out to be wrong. Is there anything wrong with that?
The accountability imposed by another country for the CIA's kidnapping and torture reveals much about our own.
Fox News' morning show plays to type, talking about whether Muslims in the Army should face "special debriefings"
The survivor and author is upset about comparisons some on the right are making to genocide
219 Democrats and one Republican join in favor of the legislation, which passed by a narrow margin
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