Or Canada. Duh.

Should be be using 'gay' and 'Mecca' in the same expression? Wouldn't gays tend to get beheaded if they go there?

Remember, the whole point of the anti-gay marriage movement is to force gays back into the closet. DON'T LET THEM! If you have to hold Pride marches every month until marriage is on the books, do it. The bigots deserve to have the "gay lifestyle" shoved in their faces after all this! We on the ohter side cannot give up this fight! With New England being a bastion of tolerance and acceptance, we now have an open door to show the rest of the coutnry, and the world, the sky will not fall if gay marriage is legalized.

That doesn't make any sense. I have never heard one pro-Prop 8 advocate, or anti-gay-marriage proponent, ever state that they "hoped to force gay people back into the closet".

I think you could reasonably say that gay Americans have been out of the closet (or able to be, if they so choose) for several decades now. Gay Americans have, and have always had, the right to vote, the right to live wherever they choose to, the right to work, etc. Nobody ever had "gay only" drinking fountains or bathrooms.

There were Gay Pride marches many decades ago, long before any push for gay marriage. How does it make any sense to say "you want to shove gay lifestyles in the faces of (presumably) conservative traditional voters"? In what way would that lead to improved relationships, or greater rights for anybody?

New England is not a bastion of "right thinking people", so much as it is a bastion of courts and legislatures who hold the citizens in contempt, so much so that they refuse to let them vote and decide their own rights and social structure. This is because they know that they would lose; California is the nuttiest and most liberal state, and even there, when it came to a vote, the people voted NO on gay marriage.

As far as "the sky falling" -- I do not think the "sky will fall" if gays marry. I do believe it wrong, and that it will not benefit society. I also believe it will lead, directly and quickly, to the legalization of polygamy, and of incestuous marriage; once you get rid of "one man, one woman", you are pretty much saying "anybody, anywhere, under any circumstances".

The sky didn't fall when Southern States passed Jim Crow laws, and those were wrong too. The sky didn't fall when the Supreme Court rendered the Dred Scott decision. Honestly, the sky doesn't fall all that often.

But some things are right, and others are wrong. Gay marriage is very, very wrong -- for American society, for families and especially for children.

... There are a lot of bruising fights shaping up over budget cuts that will affect healthcare, education, social services -- all issues that will hit communities of color the hardest. ...

Yes, and I will do all I can to get as many gay people as possible to do all they can to ensure that these budget cuts pass. Things like "Get Revenge for Prop 8, vote NO on (insert prop here)"

I looked at voting precincts where Prop 8 passed by a sizeable majority and there is no getting around that it passed overhwhelmingly in poor communities, and communities of color. In fact, the biggest supporters of Prop 8 were people making less than $40,000 a year. Why should the gay community continually vote to help people who hate us?

As for Prop 8 being repealed in the future, dream on. Look at the demographics of California--educated people moving out, poor and uneducated moving in.

My partner and I will be leaving California next month after 15 years here. We have plenty of money to weather the recession. I have reached the point where I can't even pretend to be nice to those who have been so hateful to us.

I hope California goes broke and has to cut as many services to the poor as possible. I will be sitting in my new home on the east coast, MARRIED, and will enjoy watching the ship sinking.

Sorry, bigots, no sky is falling here. The fabric of society has not been destroyed in Massachusetts, four years after gay marriage was made legal. As time passes, stated support for gay marriage has increased and calls for the whole constitutional amendment nonsense have faded.

time to flee California. Intellectually stunted bigots and the influence of the poisonous Roman Catholic and Mormon churches have destroyed the most progressive state in the union.

Iowa: The New Mecca. Whoda thunk it?

"As for Prop 8 being repealed in the future, dream on. Look at the demographics of California--educated people moving out, poor and uneducated moving in.

My partner and I will be leaving California next month after 15 years here. We have plenty of money to weather the recession. I have reached the point where I can't even pretend to be nice to those who have been so hateful to us.

I hope California goes broke and has to cut as many services to the poor as possible."

^ Thus we take another step toward redefining the political rift in this country as "The socially liberal rich versus the socially conservative poor."

"I do believe it wrong, and that it will not benefit society. I also believe it will lead, directly and quickly, to the legalization of polygamy, and of incestuous marriage; once you get rid of "one man, one woman", you are pretty much saying "anybody, anywhere, under any circumstances"."

How is it wrong? Specifically explain how it is wrong. I'm sick and tired of things being banned for religious reasons and when somebody says they think gay marriage is "wrong" that is usually what they mean. I think hunting is "wrong" but I'm not going around trying to get it outlawed. There is such a thing as personal space. Where your life ends and someone elses begins. As far as I can see, trying to stop gays from getting married crosses that boundry.

As for the rest of your premise, I'm not buying it. The slippery slope excuse falls apart under any kind of real scrutiny. Most of the examples you give have their own reasons why they wouldn't work. Polygamy was tried and it resulted in forced marriages and underage marriages. There's an actual history to look at and see why it doens't work. The argument against incest is, I think, should be obvious. I also don't buy the "gay marriage doesn't benefit society" excuse. Marraige as an institution encourages monogamy. That has to be good for society. The reproduction excuse also falls apart since straight couples who cannot have children are also allowed to marry.

If everyone went around trying to ban everything they thought was "wrong", it is doubtful very much would be legal. In this case, the only question anyone should be asking is: "Is it any of my business?" In this case, I can say to you, no, it is not.