I wouldn't say good riddance to losing Texas. After all, a lot of recruits for the military come from there. Texas is the 9th most common state for recruits to come from.

Back in 2006, a trio of men claiming to be libertarians settled in Loving County here in Texas, the emptiest and least populated county in the state, with the stated plan of taking over the county by encouraging libertarians to move there and run for various county offices. Among this group's stated goals was to "stop enforcement of laws prohibiting victimless acts among consenting adults such as dueling, gambling, incest, price-gouging, cannibalism and drug handling." Before all these neo-Peter Pans move out to their private MAN-made island, maybe they should first resolve the question of consensual cannibalism. Or, perhaps it might be better for us if they did not. . . .

Back when the Clinton administration was dehumanizing and demeaning medical marijuana patients and lying their fear-mongering behinds off about medical marijuana while preventing any science from being done -- the Libertarians felt like the left and Clinton felt like the right wing.

I mean really -- taking financial aid from college students who get caught with marijuana, while paying the bills for alcoholics -- the people who supported THAT petty and paranoid and grotesquely morally inconsistent law formed the right wing as far as I'm concerned.

For a while it seemed like the Libertarians were the only humane and rational party in the country.

Clinton was a vicious bastard and a remorseless liar but his adoring enablers just couldn't say a bad word about him.

That was a sick, sick time in Democratic history, when the Libertarians were better Democrats than the Democrats were.

Is there a fund to contribute to this end for Texas? It would drop our execution rate- raise the IQ average for both places-diminish the general number of assh&*%s in this country, and give New Mexico foreign borders on 2 sides; as a former NM'er, an improvement...

It has been amusing for the last few years to listen to the Thom Hartman show when he invites people from the Ayn Rand Institute to debate public policy. Invariably, Hartman backs them into a corner and forces them to admit that they don't like democracy. He has usually done this with a "well, if the majority votes for universal health care, what's the problem?" kind of approach and the libertarian has always found it uncomfortable to admit on the air that they are basically at odds with one of our most cherished American notions of freedom - a democratic system.

Now, it appears that libertarians are starting to be honest with themselves as well as others about their philosophy and their intentions. Libertarians don't like democracy. This fact alone makes them philosophical enemies of our American system of government. Now that libertarians are even embracing the notion of monarchy, they have become the exact opposites of our country's founders. This might have something to do with their level of approval with the public.

In the immortal words of Bill Maher regarding the South, "If at first you don't secede, try, try again."

How does one run for President of the UNITED States on a platform of secession? Vote for me and I'll split the country doesn't sound like a winner. Even pre-Civil War "doughfaces" (Northern men with Southern principles) didn't advocate secession; they just caved to the South to the extent President Buchanan thought he did not possess the authority to hold the Union together. Besides, isn't this the same crowd that got all worked up over Obama supposedly not saluting the flag and not wearing a flag pin?

This was maybe 3 years ago. They voted from several small-state location choices and picked New Hampshire. They were figuring enough would move there to tilt it to a libertarian-majority state, where they could install the un"fair tax," and whatever else is on their platform.

So now they've gone from pie in the sky dreamers to true nutcases.

Maybe it's time to contact the FDIC to complain about PayPal functioning as a bank and not complying with FDIC rules.

marie50: "secession... Is there a fund to contribute to this end for Texas? It would drop our execution rate- raise the IQ average for both places-diminish the general number of assh&*%s in this country, and give New Mexico foreign borders on 2 sides; as a former NM'er, an improvement..."

In related news, "Houston, We Have A Solution":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCLz7XQOIOQ

(also at sig)

Can Kevin Costner play Patri Friedman in the movie version?

While the ELITES of the Eastern Seaboard Establishment continue their name-calling, while stealing the Constitution from "average citizens," those living West of the Mississippi River have held discussions regarding the rights of citizens being trashed by Elites, and how to rectify that.

One of the responses has been secession from the "old Guard" on the East Coast so that Western citizens CAN be represented in a form of government that IS representative of "normal" citizens rather than by ELITES from the East Coast who dominate the Government of the United States (they don't call the U.S. Senate the "Millionaires Club" for no reason!).

The western states have a much different history and culture. We in the WEST LOOK WEST, not EAST. Our business ties and relationships are among fellow westerners and those nations to our West, NOT East.

And, we are NOT being represented accurately by an ELITIST-dominated Congress, and White House regardless of party affiliations as both are dominated by East Coast Elites.

In short, Westerners simply want and demand a government that looks and acts like Westerners, NOT Ivy League-dominated schoolers, who have trashed the Constitution; have bankrupted the U.S. Treasury of Trillions of Dollars while sending the taxpayers' the bills for the Elites' caused subverions.

In short, it would be much easier for ALL concerned to admit that we in the West have little in common with those on the East Coast, and simply want no more to do with them, or their "Establishment" oriented goverment.

And, per Jefferson, Westerners HAVE the right to revolt and to secede IF westerners choose. And, many in the West DO wish to leave the corrupt-ridden government of the United States, and to form a "More Perfect Union" in a WESTERN mode, and in this region's interest.

Secession from the OLD-guard, and establishment of a new nation "conceived in liberty" is a public GOOD which is what many on this side of the continent are considering as an option for that "public good." Westerners have that right.

Your writer's attacks against the FREEDOMS of fellow citizens' desire for that "good," only makes the case FOR secession from such corruption even clearer.

This nation has a history of secession as a matter of rights. It is time for it to occur again for the GOOD of this region's citizens.