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Tuesday, April 28, 2009 12:00 AM

The right floats off to Neverland. No girls allowed!

In Texas and elsewhere, conservatives soothe the pain of electoral rout with dreams of secession -- and of magical nerd kingdoms.

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Tuesday, April 28, 2009 04:19 AM

"Thumbing Their Nose"?

Uh, in case these dildoes forget, a very substantial and clear majority of the "American People" turned out and voted for all these policies now being put forth. Washington is only thumbing its collective nose at the now rightfully-marginalized minority of holdovers who still desparately cling to the delusion that the assholes who f**ked up the country over the previous eight years are the ones who can save it.

Tuesday, April 28, 2009 04:25 AM

Why the mashup between authoritarian secessionists and anti-authoritarians?

I can just imagine you chortling to yourself as you penned this one.

First you justly slam neo-Confederates (a good name, in my opinion), but then attack the only people in this country who believe in justice and liberty. Libertarians are indeed rare, because most people (84% of people apparently) are thugs who force their twisted beliefs on others using government arms and threat of violence, whether those beliefs favor a communist police state or a fascist police state.

With Obama, the thugs have been delivered their Messiah: he loves both kinds of authoritarianism, whether it's spying on and stifling the free speech of Americans or torturing foreigners in secret overseas prisons. Fascists on the right as still sniping at him but only because they've been grounded for bad behavior. Once they're allowed to once again sit at the grownup table, then they'll be on board with his totalitarian schemes, and in fact will probably have useful advice.

Tuesday, April 28, 2009 04:38 AM

Where

can I donate $10 so these people can buy their pontoon and bugger off?

Tuesday, April 28, 2009 04:45 AM

"We make our own reality!"

Republicans no longer feel the need for anything they say to have even the slightest connecton to the real world.

1. They believe the TV show "24" was a documentary.

2. They believe that Saddam Hussein planned the September 11 2001 attacks. And that the WMD's wer actually found in June 2003.

3. The believe that Barak Obama is a Muslim, from an Islamic school.

4. And they believed that "The Decider" was sent by God to rule and protect America

5. They believe that the election of Barak Obama is absolute proof that popular elections are no longer a desirable method of selecting Presidents.

Republicans have been acting on items 1-4 since 2001. Now they will begin acting on item 5.

Tuesday, April 28, 2009 05:04 AM

Don't immanentize the eschaton!

Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan, Rush Limbaugh, and (possibly) Arnold Schwarzenegger . . . Will this country's debt to California ever be paid? And I didn't even mention Jim Jones or Dan White! For a place full of retired military types who hate the government but love cashing their pension checks, don't forget to bring your irony!

Tuesday, April 28, 2009 05:32 AM

Has Friedman been playing Bioshock recently?

"Seasteading is my proposal to open the oceans as a new frontier, where we can build new city-states to experiment with new institutions." Hmm, that sounds exactly like the premise of Bioshock the computer game, where Randians built an undersea utopia. Throw on top of that the PayPal guy who wants to live forever...and you've got the rest of the game.

Life imitating art?

Tuesday, April 28, 2009 05:40 AM

Somalia: Libertarian Paradise

I don't understand this take to the seas stuff from the Libertarians. One country has already seized the future. No central government. No troublesome taxes. No restraints on free trade of any kind. Somalia is a libertarian paradise where brave entrepreneurs are unfettered in their pursuit of acquiring wealth.

Tuesday, April 28, 2009 05:41 AM

Go, Texas, go!

This could be the best thing that ever happened to American education, and specifically to the textbook publishing industry, in years. No need to write every text so that it will pass muster with the Darwin-denying, Civil-war-disputing ideologues on the school boards of Texas towns. Go, Texas, go, and hey, fundamentalists, I've found some great school districts for you! Move today!!!

Tuesday, April 28, 2009 05:44 AM

float way

I really don't see any downside to this. Please make it happen! Please!

Tuesday, April 28, 2009 05:55 AM

I think I've found their "paradise"

It's about the size of Texas & it's free floating so there are no attachments to any nation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Pacific_Garbage_Patch

It looks like the perfect place for them.

Tuesday, April 28, 2009 05:55 AM

Your ire is about as stupid and made up as the original issue

So kudos to you for helping keep the stupid alive.

Tuesday, April 28, 2009 06:03 AM

Ah those Republicans,

You know who is just one iota better than them?

Democrats.

How long will that iota last?

Tuesday, April 28, 2009 06:05 AM

A+++++ WOULD BUY AGAIN

That was fucking brilliant!

Tuesday, April 28, 2009 06:05 AM

No, It Wasn't A Movie It Was A Game

OddjobXL, your friendly political gaming nerd here.

This all sounds a little too much like the premise behind Bioshock to be a coincidence.

"BioShock is set during 1960, in Rapture, a fictional underwater dystopian/anti-utopian city.[30][32] The history of Rapture is learned by the player through audio recordings as he explores the city. Rapture was envisioned by the business magnate Andrew Ryan (voiced by Armin Shimerman), who wanted to create a laissez-faire state to escape increasingly oppressive political, economic, and religious authority on land. The city was secretly built in 1946 on a mid-Atlantic seabed, utilizing submarine volcanoes to provide geothermal power.[33]"

"'I am Andrew Ryan and I am here to ask you a question:

Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow?

No, says the man in Washington; it belongs to the poor.

No, says the man in the Vatican; it belongs to God.

No, says the man in Moscow; it belongs to everyone.

I rejected those answers. Instead, I chose something

different. I chose the impossible. I chose...

Rapture.'

— — Andrew Ryan"

-Wikipedia

Oh, boy. And there's bioengineering and all the rest these loons are talking about too in there. Gotta love the intellectual adolescents in the black helicopter crowd.

Tuesday, April 28, 2009 06:07 AM

Can we send some of the tinfoil hatties here with them?

You know, like the ones who think that the Jews blew up the World Trade Center and who keep insisting that Building Seven wasn't seriously damaged and ablaze when it most manifestly was?

Tuesday, April 28, 2009 06:10 AM

Funny!!

Hysterical! This was really funny. Thanks for a good morning laugh!

Tuesday, April 28, 2009 06:15 AM

Those who do not remember history are condemned to....well, you know

This was quite amusing, but I have a long memory and in 2004, this nuttiness was being expressed by....disappointed liberals facing down four more years of Dubya. Does nobody else remember the caterwauling, the screams of "I'm moving to Canada!"???? Right here on Salon, too.

Well, fast forward and nobody went to Canada, and the sky didn't fall (though the economy crapped out) and the Democratic party didn't wither up and die, but gee whiz, came back gangbusters and put a black candidate into the Oval Office. Miracles can and do happen.

But don't be so naive as to think this doesn't work BOTH WAYS. That's the beauty of a two party system; one election cycle you are down and things look bleak, and your followers start talking about secession or Canada, and a mere 48 months later (a hiccup in terms of actual history), the shoe is on the other foot.

It was equally hilarious when blue staters were screaming about secession, and how they'd break off and take all the colleges and high tech industry and educated workers with them.

There is still a divide in US culture, between red and blue, Democrat and Republican, and conservative and liberal. Maybe it's time we accepted that hey! we have differences...people never think exactly alike, and maybe our differences are good -- or at least better than a uniform society of conformists who are afraid to speak out. And that maybe our differences are what makes us stronger, as long as we accept dissent and dialog, instead of insisting on "political correctness" and group-think.

*****

Still and all -- @Bryce Anderson -- seriously, buddy, you want "life extension" so that wrinkly old rich white people will live forever? Because you can't seriously believe that any sort of "life extension" will be handed out to poor urban blacks, or the teeming masses in Calcutta or Sao Paulo?

The earth is groaning under a population of over 6 billion, which is probably about twice what it is set up to comfortably house, feed and provide jobs for -- but YOU want all those people to live forever....while squeezing out evermore babies. Where pray tell will all those future generations live, while the old white geezers live on forever?

This would be even funnier if it was less pathetic and self-serving.

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