"Who the fuck are these people?"

The kind of people you see on television but not in real life - fictional characters - actors.

You seriously believe this crap?

How do you like the taste of Syke #9?

I think it is irresistible.

Presumably through the collapse of social order. And in that Mad Max world, I think the pansy think-tankers and stock traders who push this ridiculous ideology will taste delicious.

There's a rumor that there is a colony of sailors intentionally adrift in the Sargasso. They should join them.

Just.... WOW. Words truly fail.

Self-parody is to mild a term for these people's beliefs.

All I can do is encourage them. Keep it up wingnuts! Keep showing everyone just how tenuous your grip on reality is!

Who the fuck are these people?

"Homer, that's your solution to everything- to move under the sea, well it's not gonna happen!"

:)

They say that both are inevitable, and apparently some libertarians hope to avoid both.

I get annoyed when my own outlandish, foolish beliefs are tied to other people's outlandish, foolish beliefs. The possibility of indefinite life extension seems hard to deny. I can think of reasons why it might not be desirable, but when I try to think of why it wouldn't be possible, I draw a blank.

You could imagine this era as a tragic one, where millions of people stopped existing every day, taking their hopes, dreams, and memories to the dirt with them. It's like watching an entire Library of Alexandria rot away before each sunset. It's not crazy to want to bring an end to that, and I imagine that future people will wonder why we took so little care in trying to preserve ourselves.

You could have fun psychoanalyzing the sorts of people who are obsessed with life extension. It might not be a sign of maturity, to wish for something that has never existed, and may not in our lifetimes. It's certainly a sign of an unreasonable state of mind. But then, I don't consider myself particularly reasonable.

So, let the live forever crowd stand or fall on their own craziness. Please, please don't discredit them by linking them to libertarians.

Science has proven that the Libertarians were about 100 times more right than even they believed they were when they backed medical marijuana initiatives and went to the barricades for medical marijuana patients.

Hippies, Greens, gays, and suit-and-tie Libertarians -- those were the people standing behind the patients back in 1996. That was back when Bill Clinton was calling it "Cheech and Chong medicine."

Now, 17,000 peer-reviewed and published articles later, it's become a mainstream political issue that won every county in Michigan in 2008, something Obama couldn't do.

Libertarians do win elections, in a sense, when their ideas become validated enough to gain the confidence of the mainstream.

The American Taliban.

When I was lad at college I encountered a group of "free space colonizers" who envisioned a libertarian enclave at L5 between the earth and the moon. Indeed, a fleet of space pods! Don't like the rules on this pod, go start your own!

They were nutty in a harmless, amusing fashion and clearly marginal to the real world. But that was then and now people just as nutty are the base of the Republican party, along with the John Birch contingent, the global warming deniers and, the usual sprinkling of racists.

With threats to "go Gault" or live on oil rigs it's clear that libertarianism is an infantile disorder; people long past their teens who just can't let go of Rand and Heinlein (whose kids books are fine).

But don't discourage them. If enough free market fetishists move onto oil rigs maybe the rest of us can finally get the economy back to reality.

...take your big Texas-sized temper tantrum and put it under your big Texas-sized hat and just go. We'll move Austin to Taos and hold SXSW there, move Johnson SFC to Mountain View and just be done. Have fun when Mexico decides they want you back.

I'm really getting sick of the whiny,stompy sore-loser attitude that the Right has displayed since last November. I feel like my parents at the dinner table when I was a kid. "If you think you can find a better place and another country that will love you more, the door's that way".

PLEASE DO!!!!! and take most of the south with you!

...and it will soon be the Viking paradise that all the global climate change deniers keep telling us it once was, let's let the Libertarians found their 'Neverland' there.

Of course, they'll have to start off with essentially no technology, since all technology is tainted with the 'curse' of Statism.

But I'm generous. Let them settle in Greenland with anything that they can personally carry (guns, laptop computers, dehydrated food, etc.).

Then, in about 5 years, when it has turned into The Lord of The Flies...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lord_of_The_Flies

...we offer those that want to return to civilization the chance to do so, but only if they agree to shut their frakin traps about Libertarianism forever.

Remember Palin's husband was a member of a secession group up in Alaska -- and since Alaska gets almost two dollars back from the feds for everyone they put in -- perhaps we can let them go to.

Those survivalist , state militia types with guns and god -- are always wanting to separate from the rest of us with running water, hospitals and schools - let them.

Unfortunately they always take their kids , and you end up with the groups marring off girls at 13 to 30 year old men -- and decent folks always feel they have to rescue the women and kids.

Perhaps we say they can secede, but only men folks, they can't take their kids and women with them.

Isn't that how the Lord of the Rings ended...with the elves fleeing Middle Earth in boats headed for the West? I gotta tell em...Just like the Fountainhead is not a religious text, neither are those stories about Hobbits meant to be an outline for a political program. You've lost your free thinking groove by modeling your lives after authorized texts. See what happens when you link together with social conservatives too long? You stop being that secular right that I used to love to party with in college.

You used to be so good with using logic and tried to find facts to keep liberals honest. Your belief in libertarian utopias used to be a good counterweight against liberal utopias...As Garrison Keilior once wrote in Salon..against the tendency of Democrats for putting up warning signs everyplace where the ground is not level and creating limited regulated spaces where cowboys could hoot and holler. But your support of the more totalizing tendencies of the social conservatives and their quest for authority over personal decisions that you give for the sake of getting a seat at the table has not served you well. Hopefully if you do go into exile, you'll get that free thinking groove back.