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Monday, January 5, 2009 12:00 AM

Why Israelis support the Gaza offensive

Israel's post-traumatic war is not just about stopping Hamas rockets, but about repairing reputations -- and erasing the stain of failure.

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Monday, January 5, 2009 05:56 PM

If the yamakuh fits....

Renegade Iconoclast and Xanthos

I am still waiting for your retraction. you can have all the opinions you want about me ...(excuse me just a moment, I have to go feed my Jew slave.
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Okay, I'm back. Boy, she's feisty! And hirsute! I'd hate to meet her at a dark checkpoint at night!)

Anyway, you both directly misquoted me. Can't do that! That's a no-no! I'm gonna tell Salon! and they will ban you....

So, if you would be so kind, and ask the editors to remove your slander, and also print a retraction, I would really appreciate it.

Gre-e-a-a-a-at.

Monday, January 5, 2009 06:01 PM

Misquoting and banning? LOL

misquoted me. Can't do that! That's a no-no! I'm gonna tell Salon! and they will ban you....

So, if you would be so kind, and ask the editors to remove your slander, and also print a retraction, I would really appreciate it.

Gre-e-a-a-a-at.

-- Steele The First

Nobody needs to misquote you, your filth is plain for all to see. You even repeat it in this very post under the guise of humor.

Odd that even today, people think their Jew Hatred is funny.

While Salon is hardly poor Israel, you've come about the closest I've seen for someone who might get banned here.

Even Wagner is not as direct and venomous as you are. Enjoying your old copies of Der Stürmer?

Monday, January 5, 2009 06:18 PM

They old "Jews control everything" you even managed to sneak banking in there. You sound like Julius Streicher himself

I'm pretty pro Israel but you've got to admit that the disproprtionate prominence and influence of "Likudism" in the US govt. politics and media is a very real phenomenon. It is true that some of this is due to christian fundies but to deny that "AIPAC power" is real and to cry anti semitism at anyone who brings it up only has the effect of providing cover to the real anti semites by suppressing honest discussion.

Monday, January 5, 2009 06:18 PM

-- Xanthro

You are a source of endless ignorant bullshit. The checkpoints are actually manned mostly by reservists and not regular army, and the reservist are quite older and if anything, even more racist than the youngsters you ignorantly claimed are manning the checkpoints. Does the fact that statistically, one out of many thousands of Palestinians might be foolish enough to try and go through a checkpoint with an explosive belt justify the humiliating of an entire population? For your information, the suicide bombers manage to sneak into Israel away from the checkpoints and the reason they have stopped is due to the security fence, not the checkpoints, another thing you are ignorant of. Your ignorance of the situation is stunning and embarrassing. Why would you comment on an issue you zero about?

Monday, January 5, 2009 06:18 PM

Um, yeah...

Apparently you and Renegade Iconoclast felt the need to misquote me.

So, are you going to own up to it, or continue to refuse to take accountability for your actions?

Monday, January 5, 2009 06:25 PM

dick dworkin

which is exactly why they have to split the territory between them and have two separate states, BUT this will not happen until the Jewish state can live free from attack, however ineffectual.

Since that will never happen then the Jewish Israelis will just have to either wait for the demographic time bomb to overwhelm them or engage in literal genocide. If it's genocide that the Zionists choose then Jews worldwide will suffer a monstrous backlash, it won't be right but it will happen.

I sincerely wish it didn't have to be that way but this outcome has been more or less inevitable ever since 1948.

Monday, January 5, 2009 06:34 PM

I sincerely wish it didn't have to be that way but this outcome has been more or less inevitable ever since 1948.

Well the Arabs could try peace, but if it happens as you say then Israeli jews will do whatever they have to do to survive, which they cannot do as a minority in an arab state, and if that process results in their failure to survive they will take down whoever is the agent of that destruction with their nukes as they go. It would be smart for the arabs to deal.

Monday, January 5, 2009 06:37 PM

there are hardly any Jews anywhere in the world now other than Israel and the US

anyway. Hitler mostly did the job for Europe and the the Moslem world has fully cleared itself.

Monday, January 5, 2009 06:39 PM

Checkpoints

EatingRaul You are a source of endless ignorant bullshit. The checkpoints are actually manned mostly by reservists and not regular army, and the reservist are quite older and if anything, even more racist than the youngsters you ignorantly claimed are manning the checkpoints.

Trying to get through the wall of text here.

Most of the IDF I've seen manning checkpoints are younger, and as you know, all Israeli Jews are reservist.

Does the fact that statistically, one out of many thousands of Palestinians might be foolish enough to try and go through a checkpoint with an explosive belt justify the humiliating of an entire population?

Show me where I've even hinted as such, I've stated the exact opposite. How many times must I type that such acts are even contrary to security? What part of that don't you understand?

It's idiotic to treat a populace that way, and it only makes things worse in the long run.

All we differ on is motivation. You state that it's all racism, while I state that fear is involved as well. Even giving examples of how that fear affects policies in the USA when the threat of violence is much lower.

For your information, the suicide bombers manage to sneak into Israel away from the checkpoints and the reason they have stopped is due to the security fence, not the checkpoints, another thing you are ignorant of.

I'm fully aware that the "security fence" has reduced the number of bombers, but the fence itself has issues. It cuts off people from their homes and farms, it revokes memories of the Berlin war, no matter that it's to keep people out rather than in, and it complicates a settlement because it looks like de facto borders.

Your ignorance of the situation is stunning and embarrassing. Why would you comment on an issue you zero about?

It's your obtuseness that is embarrassing. Even after agreeing with you, you seek argument where there is none, you seek to find ignorance because something hasn't been stated even.

Had I mentioned the fence first, I'm quite sure you would have jumped on me for that, despite the fact I understand both its good and bad points.

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