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until Salon gives the other side equal space and time...
The people here see all Israelis, all Jews the same way. As evil racist subhuman monsters.
You mean the same way all Jews see Palestinians?
Funny how you can see racism in everyone but Jews.
Sorry - never going to happen. Salon's been around what, 10 years? And it never met a terrorist organization it didn't 'understand', 'appreciate' and sympathize with. Eventually when Iran nukes Israel, Salon will be the first to complain that all the Jewish corpses are stinking up the place and creating a crime against mother nature.
Link please.
Nice to see an article in Salon about the Arab Israeli conflict that isn't virulently anti-Israel. I hope this is a new trend at Salon for 2009.
The most important point made in the piece is at the end when discussing the effect of Gaza rockets on the potential for Israel relinquishing the West Bank. Evacuation of the West Bank by Israel will never happen until Israelis are convinced that the territory will not be used by Palestinians to attack Israel. Terrorism in the form of rocket attacks from Gaza, often timed for the end of the school day so more children could be killed, has proven that the return to 67' boarders won't bring peace to Israel. Until convinced otherwise, there will never be a Palestinian state.
Last week he asserted the the MSM 'hides' the truth. Really? I guess they don't have TV down in Brazil. Because yesterday BOTH CNN and MSNBC were open mikes for al Jazeera and al Hayat. They both offered the floor unchallenged and unquestioned to reps from both organizations who went on to screech and soapbox for long stretches of time. In the studio, in English. If that's hiding the truth then Greenwald really is the Nazi he pretends not to be. What else does he want? al Manar Hezbollah channel to get 24/7 airtime? Maybe he can invite Nick Griffin of the BNP to swoop in do his best Oswald Mosley impression?
I think the truth is, that the Israelis cannot think of any alternative, so its going to be endless "war", which Israel will always win, until finally they succumb to demographics, just like the Crusaders did. disigny
The blockade on land, on sea and in the air against a million and a half human beings is an act of war, as much as any dropping of bombs or launching of rockets. It paralyzes life in the Gaza Strip: eliminating most sources of employment, pushing hundreds of thousands to the brink of starvation, stopping most hospitals from functioning, disrupting the supply of electricity and water.
Those who decided to close the crossings – under whatever pretext – knew that there is no real cease-fire under these conditions.
That is the main thing. Then there came the small provocations which were designed to get Hamas to react. After several months, in which hardly any Qassam rockets were launched, an army unit was sent into the Strip “in order to destroy a tunnel that came close to the border fence”. From a purely military point of view, it would have made more sense to lay an ambush on the Israeli side of the fence. But the aim was to find a pretext for the termination of the cease-fire, in a way that made it plausible to put the blame on the Palestinians. And indeed, after several such small actions, in which Hamas fighters were killed, Hamas retaliated with a massive launch of rockets, and – lo and behold – the cease-fire was at an end. Everybody blamed Hamas.
to feel better about ourselves."
Well, good for you!
For once, a look at the world through an Israeli perspective, right here on Salon! I'm proud of you, Joan.
I read an article recently that said most children in Gaza are stunted due to lack of food and nutrition. Isn't that an act of terrorism/war?
What is it that a bully does when hit in the face? Find the weakest kid in the school yard to pound into submission. As this seems to be the sentiment being expressed in Israel, I can only assume, combined with my personal experiences with zionists (christian and jewish alike) that Israel is a nation of bullies, willing to kick to the ground anyone who attempts to act as any sovereign nation would.
As to the notion that "even the left supports the invasion", well that just goes to show the contradictions of calling ones self a leftist, and a zionist at the same time.
has apparently shed his humanitarian values in favor of tribalism.
A shame.
Interesting article. Ego and shame, it always seems to go back to these two.
"For once, a look at the world through an Israeli perspective, right here on Salon! I'm proud of you, Joan."
You just don't get it, and apparently never will. Now, Israel has used up its 9 lives of oppression, blockading, harassing, and lying about it.
We're beginning to hear from the other side in the issue. And it looks awful.
Bottom line. Killing innocent civilians is not an option. Oppression, harassment, blockading, extorting land from farmers, and preventing normal commerce does NOT constitute a "cease fire". The fact that you could have prevented Hamas from gaining a foothold in the first place, and that you didn't use the insane levels of money that you take from us to prevent Hamas rise in power, is telling on you.
You are losing support every day, and you still don't get it. This stubborn, arrogant, violent, dishonest and infuriating behavior comes with a cost.
Israel, a nation that was born out of Zionist terrorism, has launched massive airstrikes against targets in Gaza using high-tech weapons produced by the United States, a country that often has aided and abetted terrorism by its client military forces, such as Chile’s Operation Condor and the Nicaraguan contras, and even today harbors right-wing Cuban terrorists implicated in blowing up a civilian airliner.
Yet, with that moral ambiguity excluded from the debate, the justification for the Israeli attacks, which have killed at least 364 people, is the righteous fight against “terrorism,” since Gaza is ruled by the militant Palestinian group, Hamas.
Hamas rose to power in January 2006 through Palestinian elections, which ironically the Bush administration had demanded. However, after Hamas won a parliamentary majority, Israel and the United States denounced the outcome because they deem Hamas a “terrorist organization.”
http://www.alternet.org/audits/116726/the_long_and_bloody_hypocrisy_of_u.s.-israeli_acts_of_terrorism_