Now the terrorists are primarily religious driven and really don't care about political solutions and negotiated settlements.

And who do you have to thank for that, rtf100? Hamas didn't just grow out of the ground like a weed. It was nurtured like a flower.

Is a gluttonous paranoid's garden of ever deepening dip shittery...the more it's read, the more fucks up a fool's head.

Religion....poisons.....everything

But, oh wait, the US gives money to Egypt too! Yeah, and so what? As if that somehow justifies everything that Israel is doing. Like the typical Israel-first propaganda amplifier, you ignore all sense of scale when framing the issue. How much just doesn't matter. Civilian Deaths on both sides, money given to all parties, scale is irrelevant.

I never mentioned the money that we give to Egypt to not attack Israel. It's not relevant to my question. My question really isn't that complicated. Are the Egyptians even just a little bit culpable for the "open air prison" or is it all the fault of the evil Israelis?

And then you go to "But but but... Hamas is committing war crimes too!" aka another talking point to deflect criticism away from Israel.

And then you go to "But but but... Israel is committing war crimes too!" aka another talking point to deflect criticism away from Hamas.

See how that works?

You make an equivalence between fertilizer rockets and the war, while completely ignoring the blockade, the "ceasefire", and the amount of control Israel exerts of people that it "stopped" occupying three years ago and call it QED.

Yes, we all know that Israel does these things because they're evil and genocidal, and for no other reason whatsoever.

Sure, easy for you to call it a "fertilizer rocket" because you haven't gotten hit by the shrapnel.

You cry "double standard" while your favored country drops us-taxpayer funded bombs on an open air prison that it has blockaded for months, and use rockets made out of fertilizer to back up your claim, you really expect your cry of "double standard" to hold water?

You'll do anything to avoid admitting that you don't hold Egypt to the same standard you do Israel, won't you? Why are the Israelis evil jailers, while the Egyptians are not? Why does Egypt even need a wall with Gaza in the first place? The fact that you ignore these questions, and assault me verbally instead, is very revealing.

Pathetic. Get back to me once you've deprogrammed the propaganda and resolved your cognitive dissonance. You claim to want a middle ground then do nothing but use the usual Israel-first tactics in your arguements.

You do nothing but use Palestine-first tactics in your arguments.

The middle ground I would suggest is for the Israelis to withdraw completely from the West Bank and give it to the Palestinians, and share Jerusalem. Additional land claims should be handled by arbitration by an independent third-party which both sides agree to, and both sides should adhere to the decisions made in this arbitration.

I suspect that even this will not bring peace, but it's fair and should at least be attempted.

Since you asked, sort of.

Yes, Israel would love for Hamas to be crushed and gone, but

Hamas is certainly not blameless here by any means.

Why would Israel want to kill its baby? Israel doesn't want to destroy Hamas, Israel LOVES Hamas. You must be mistaking me for someone who is naive.

It's ok though, I forgive you.

if Israel can not make real peace i.e no rockets they will never withdraw from the west bank, they will also never allow themselves to become a minority by absorbing the west bank or gaza and giving the residents the vote. So it's permanent occupation until there is real peace.

Egypt hasn't warred with another country in 36 years.

So it's permanent occupation until there is real peace.

wow, no contradictions there or anything.

on other problems in the world?

just sayin

Who says it is the job of the United States to solve the world's problems? I guess the Founding Fathers accidentally left Article 8 out of the Constitution, "world policeman".

which they know is what they would get.

A great man once said, "History is Bunk" - I tend to agree.

An excuse to ignore history that refutes your premise.

I know about the Khazars and the Askenazi and you do not?

I'm quite familiar with them. The Khaganate is fascinating.

I also know that Jew Haters like yourself, want to pretend that all Jews descend from the Khazars and then pretend that the Khazars aren't real Jews so they don't count.

Preposterous. does describe your stance so far, which is lifted entirely out of Jew Hating literature to the point of plagiarism.

You are just a liar.

Feel free to call me whatever names floats your boats, it still doesn't refute the fact that you are wrong.

Very few people are willing to die for their beliefs unless they have no alternative whatsoever.

Untrue, plenty of people would die for their beliefs. Even during the Holocaust people refused to convert. Jehovah's Witnesses could have saved themselves via conversion, but did not. They chose death along side Jews instead.

Jews change religion within Judaism too. So what, cultures modify over time. Americans spell it theater now, not theatre. They're the same people still.

You aren't doing animal sacrifices anymore and that seems a betrayal of the core of the religion.

First, I'm not Jewish, so the use of you is incorrect.

Second, Jewish animal sacrifice can only take place in the temple, which was destroyed in 70ce, so today there can't be animal sacrifice under the Jewish religion.

How many modern Jews actually believe in JHVJ - especially after the Holocaust?

Why would it even matter? When it suits you, religion is all that counts. Then when it suits you, religion doesn't count at all.

You want to dismiss Jewish claims to Israel by stating that today's Jews are related to the Jews of history by blood, that it's only a religious claim, then you want to claim that the religion doesn't count because it's changed with time.

The only consistency found in your arguments is Jew Hating. What ever can be argued that is most anti-Jewish is what you will advocate.

Your only real argument with people like Wagner is that you know that saying Hitler had it right turns people off, and you want to convert others to your Jew Hating.