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Sunday, Nov 8, 2009
Show of hands? Anyone? They also partnered with President Ahmashitheadjihad of Iran when he proclaimed the imminent nuclear extinction of Israel. I am so glad you're with them, it saves the rest of us guessing what kind of retard you are.
Again though, show of hands, does anyone here know why NK says what they do? I'll let you wiki that one.
Which I'm sure is representative of all black people, according to the morons here....?
Are gloves and lampshades. How do you like this soft cheese and aren't those Jews just nasty nasty people. Not at all like us.
Well those are some mighty fine and decent Jews and I am certain that Palestinians could get along with them just fine.
Like any other group of people, the overwhelming majority of Jews and Palestinians are decent and good people.
There is no money for the war business with people like that.
something stinks You cannot accept the fact that the majority of people chose to stay and abide by Roman law and later conforming to whatever dominate culture and religion imposed itself upon them and the region.
Very very few Jews converted to Roman religions or culture, and frankly most of those who did were then murdered by Jews.
Hundreds of thousands, Jewish records indicate more but are considered by most to be unreliable, of Jews were killed after the Bar Kokhba revolt in 135ce. Most of the Jewish population in Judaea (Roman name at the time) was killed, exiled, or sold into slavery.
Then Hadrian renamed the area Palestine in order to further remove Jewish national aspiration to their historical homeland.
Most scholars date the Jewish diaspora to this date, some earlier to the 72ce First Revolt.
It's not as if Jews haven't tried to regain their homeland many times. There was another Jewish revolt against the Romans in 115ce, then again in 351ce. In 614 Jews joined the Persians and overthrew the Byzantine garrison and Jews ruled the city for five years.
There is simply no historical fact to back up your claim that many Jews converted.
Something Stinks I suppose you also believe that no Jews converted to Christianity under the threat of death, torture or the Holy Roman Inquisition!!!
Where did I say no Jews converted. A very small number did, in fact, it was this that helped lead to the First Revolt in 70ce. This was crushed and the Second Temple destroyed, and the money looted used to build the Roman Colosseum.
something stinks So if you had a house and a farm and a business and the mexicans invaded and said you had to go to church you would just pack up and leave your property, business, livelyhood and neighbors behind you, right?
Sorry, but that is extremely foolish and shows a complete lack of understanding of history.
To most Jews, death was far easier choice than conversion, people they believed that to convert was a sin before God. Plus, in many cases conversion wasn't even an option. The Romans didn't care, they wanted to exterminate the Jews, not convert them.
Even the Roman historian Cassius Dio wrote that over 500,000 Jews were killed, and 50 fortified towns and 985 villages razed.
something stinksWas U-Haul around in the 1st century?
You don't need to have a U-Haul when you are fleeing for your life and aren't allowed to take anything of value.
Your ignorance of history doesn't excuse you from denying that the Jews of today are for the most part descended from the same Jews expelled from Judaea. You can even trace this via DNA, supporting what history tells us.
But, I guess all that should be discarded because you think people can't move without a U-Haul.
Thank goodness you've found a place to post that doesn't result in your meaningful insights being purged within 10 minutes.
For years Israel's public relations soldiers have publically flogged anyone who has criticized Israel's policies as anti-Semites while simultaneously claiming that their criticism is moot since nobody will actually do anything to stop Israel (even though that begs the question why someone like Satanic_Jew would even bother to come to Salon to post). Well people are tired of it and don't care any more. Go ahead and call whomever you like anti-Semitic, that word has been rendered almost meaningless by its constant misuse.
Personally I used to be pro-Israel, but I have become weary of the lengths to which Israel goes in fighting their enemies. And that combined with all of the abuse I have received for my concern about universal human rights has made me stop caring. Now I think either Israel should become a single nation-state for both Israelis and Palestinians or bugger it all. Go ahead and push it into the sea for all I care. The Zionist movement has done what it takes to establish a nation-state in a hostile land, and continues to do what it takes to stay. And suffering terrorism is part of that, as is spreading their own terror. In the case of Israel/Palestine I have come to see that terrorism is just war by other means, so there is no reason to support Israel over their enemies.
So go choke on the sacred land, keep spreading destruction and death, hoping that massacring one more family will bring Israel permanent peace, until you are overwhelmed by demographics. In the end everybody will be alienated and nobody will care, and stupid assholes like Satanic_Jew will be left whining about how the whole world is anti-Semitic in one big self-fulfilling prophecy.
but (IMO) the Palestinians will never get their state until it is basically given to them by the Israelis. The Palestinians (and Arabs) will never militarily defeat Israel (and her #1 backer).
The ironic thing is that hundreds of years ago when battles were huge street fights involving no major technology beyond the spear & bow/arrow the Palestinians would have driven the Israelis into the sea.
Not now though, Israel's military is just too strong.
In another thread a few days ago I wished the Palestininas were more nuanced about their resistance. They can only obtain their state once Jewish & American public opinion agrees that they deserve one. Even though they have ample reasons to shoot rockets willynilly into Israel. From a strategic & public realations standpoint the rocket shooting only helps their ememies paint them as barbarians.
Much of the initial coverage about Fort Hood turned out to be wrong. Is there anything wrong with that?
The accountability imposed by another country for the CIA's kidnapping and torture reveals much about our own.
Fox News' morning show plays to type, talking about whether Muslims in the Army should face "special debriefings"
The survivor and author is upset about comparisons some on the right are making to genocide
Once seen as a lunatic fringe, reactionary anti-women groups are courting respectability
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