There are significant differences between the Indian Police mode of operations and the US.

Indian Police is governed by the archaic colonial 1890's law which specifically prohibits the following:

1) No Central/Federal police agency. The law specifically prevents sharing of intelligence across states (British fear and now Indian).

2) No intelligence apparatus. The British police were mainly made of brawn and were used to break up anti-british protests. Now the same police is used to break up anti-government protests. Still no intelligence-gathering apparatus.

3) Political control of Police. The state-level police in India are controlled by political bosses. Even a lowly local legislator over-ranks the HIGHEST police officer in district. This is an indian invention which made sure elected officials control police. The intention was altruistic. But given the level of corruption in india, political control is a dangerous tool.

These three factors conspire to prevent effective intelligence gathering, sharing of said intelligence and acting upon any intelligence gathered unilaterally.

More laws like PATRIOT Act will NOT help India unless the police force is overhauled and political control removed.

Unfortunately, that is the last thing our politicians want and hence we are doomed to face more such attacks and react to them rather than prevent them.

God bless us.

Look, I'm not a hawk. I have a young family in Midwest America. To me, storming a busy city with guns and spraying bullets into crowds says very little about your personal bravery. The conviction that you are representing is nihilism, not some call for change. Justification for this kind of murder is the worst kind of cynicism. Call it honestly: It's no different than a lothesome mall shooter, except instead of some loser who can't think of another way to make a difference, the hopeless, suicidal self-loathing is caused by generations of failed ideology.

Do you read ANY of the articles before you start posting?

Read before you squawk

Roy's article is intelligent.

After 9/11, we were told: don't ask why. WRONG. That should be the first question.

We played into bin Laden's hand with our response...I hope India is smart enough to avoid a knee-jerk reaction.....

Saturday, November 29, 2008

Terrorist attack in Mumbai- Bombay

Deeply was a dolt and wondered why he did not recognize Mumbai... he was not thinking of Mumbai Gin of course, but Bombay... silly Deeply. But this gets back to this attack. Very sad and unfortunate for those involved, but hardly worthy of all the news coverage. There are almost 20 million people in Mumbai, so percentage wise a small attack. And, of course none of the networks were speaking to India's history, it's past, the British Raj, and the significance of an attack against the Taj Mahal hotel.

Well, the Taj Mahal hotel was built in 1903 and added on to in 1973. It is a five star establishment, hardly the place where poor old British and American pikers stay. The common Indian, not even the common American, can afford the Taj Mahal which contains Mumbai's most la di da restaurant. The cheapest rooms are 650 per night in a land where the average yearly income is 500 hundred dollars. Some how the networks... good old CNN and and NBC neglected to tell you this!

Do you think this may have something to do with the attack? Britain's history in India and the sheer effrontery of the place to the average Indian... foreigners, who spend, on a one night stay for the cheapest rooms, more than the average Indian's yearly income... Do you think? And perhaps some of these people were staying in the suites ouch...thousands!

And were the networks letting morons like Joe the Plumber... this sort of American know this... of course they were not! Always look for the AGENDA! And I don't mean the terrorists!

Posted by Deeply Imbedded

It is well known how Islam got started. Somehow, it has ways to encourage violence.

Most Muslims are not violent but enough are to bring disrespect on all.

The non-violent Muslims had better get to work on this.

This is a well thought out response to the attacks in Mumbai and raises the very real possibility that an act like POTA could ensnare hundreds or thousands of innocent Muslims around India. It would be a real tragedy if that was the response that the Indian government adopts. However, I think an even more troubling proposition would be to ignore the mounting evidence against the Pakistani intelligence agency ISI in helping plan the attacks.

In the last 6 months there have been ten terrorist attacks across India by various so-called "Muhajadeens". However, unlike terrorist activities in every other part of the world, there seem to be very few radicalized muslims in India and very few rabidly anti-Indian mosques. Instead, in all of those attacks we have seen the fingerprints of a foreign intelligence agency attempting to destabilize India and possibly create massive inter-ethic violence like happened in Gujarat in 2002 or after Indira Gandhi was assassinated.

The assault on lower Mumbai was well coordinated, superbly funded and the attackers trained by battle hardened soldiers. No run of the mill village Jihadi would be able to hold off hundreds of special forces operatives for almost 60 hours. These were trained professionals.

When the Indian embassy in Kabul was bombed a few months ago the CIA blamed the ISI. Why would we not suspect that these attackers were similarly linked?

The question is now not how India should respond to an internal threat, but how it should attempt to convince members of the Pakistani government to denounce rogue elements of ISI who are trying to destabilize the whole region. There should also be an immediate crackdown on Lakshar e Toiba training camps and military in so-called "Azad Kashmir".

If India does not act quickly and decisively to protect its national interests now then it only encourages future attacks.

No. We won't. We are too wise to pass a PATRIOT, because we knew the sufferings we went through.

We also know how corrupt our politicians are and their absolute control over police to the effect a low state minister demands and gets 350 cops to protect her while citizens die on streets and hotels.

What we need to do is to modernize and reorganise the police along lines of US or Japan(better).

Right now politicians OWN the police in every sense(promotion, jobs and even salaries). As you know politicians are selfish and care first about themselves, then their family, then their own constituents, then their party and finally the country.

Cops can't act that way. Hence these kinds of fiascos.

Any PM/President who tries to modernize the police by passing acts that place them on merit basis rather than politician control risks being impeached or removed from power.

So the incentive to modernize is simply not there.

Let's hope the people demand modernization of police instead of succumbing to right-wing nuts here who bray for PATRIOT III.