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...is that liberals or progressives take time to sit around and think about "what" they actually are whereas conservatives and their base go out and do things. There is no intellectual debate about whether or not someone can be called a conservative, they don't care how they are seen. They just act on what they believe. And yet, even after the American have so strongly rejected the conservative philosophy for now, mostly because its not conservative at all, you want to have this debate? Who cares? If you are more interested in what others think when you describe yourself as something in a blog or letter to your newspaper editor, then you're not that interested in politics. You're more interested in some sort of weird self-preservation. Go some balls already.