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What would it take for Clinton to concede defeat? An insider remembers -- and draws lessons from -- the backroom deals that ended another brutal, racially charged Democratic slugfest.
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  • Re:Stop the arrogant put downs

    First Off,

    Sesanders, you are dead on correct. (You also beat me on using a very descriptive word for walter_map, I guess great minds do think alike.) =^)

    Walter_map, fuck you, you supercilious prick! It's jackasses like you that make me intensely dislike Obama, who I already think is arrogant. Stop talking down to everyone like you're their political god-father. We're allowed to have opinions differing from yours, and your smug, sanctimony does not endear you to anyone here.

    Hillary is eminently more qualified, regardless of what anyone says about her, or her husband. Anyone here remember the nineties?

    Thirdly, Jebldmm, you are also dead-on correct. The level of disrespect for Hillary has been unbelievable, all over the web, and not just here on Salon.

    Oh, and by the way, 08YesWeCan, fuck you too! It ain't over until your mother sings, so have a coke and a smile, and STFU. The primary race is just that, a race. If you and Xufapemu will drop that "my candidate or the highway" inevitability bullshit attitude, maybe other Democrats who sincerely want change in this country, and Hillary to be the next President might seriously start thinking about voting for Obama come November, if he wins. I don't hear any singing yet.

  • sagcat

    Can we please start to make peace here?

    That's the point, isn't it? Hillary doesn't want peace. And neither do the Clintonites here.

    Since Hillary's chances of winning the nomination depend on a math miracle, one seems justified to start suspecting motives. If not actual party affiliation.

  • @sesanders. ok, you tell me how Hilary gets the nomination...help me out

    My point is that there is NO WAY Hilary gets the nomination. Please explain to me how she gets it. Yes, I am dismissive of people who don't face reality....you can all the crazy thoughts you want to have, but the important ones are those to bring to bear on the nomination process. Again...tell me how she can win and not get pissy....sorry the ball is completely in your court and your attempt to defend Hilary's chances are bogus. I am not being partisan when I say that there is NO chance of Hilary getting the nomination...short of a pile of cocaine and a hooker. Give me a break, you can't present any other scenario and you know it...so stop being so disingenious.

  • Stentor

    Walter_map, fuck you, you supercilious prick!

    Your insult here is merely a cover for your lack of any cogent argument against my positions.

    Otherwise you might have presented one. But you can't, because you don't.

    Thanks for conceding.

  • Stentor

    Hillary is eminently more qualified, regardless of what anyone says about her, or her husband. Anyone here remember the nineties?

    What political office did Hillary hold in the nineties?

    Perhaps your recollection of the nineties isn't what it otherwise could be.

  • Re:Eff Yoo Buddah! I'm not your budday, friend! I'm not your friend.............

    I haven't conceded anything you sanctimonious bastard, fuck you and the horse you rode in on, other people have already stated my arguments for me. You seem to think that attitude already accounts for cogent arguments, don't think so.

  • -- Stentor

    Oh, and by the way, 08YesWeCan, fuck you too! It ain't over until your mother sings, so have a coke and a smile, and STFU. The primary race is just that, a race. If you and Xufapemu will drop that "my candidate or the highway" inevitability bullshit attitude, maybe other Democrats who sincerely want change in this country, and Hillary to be the next President might seriously start thinking about voting for Obama come November, if he wins. I don't hear any singing yet.

    The fat lady has sung Stunted. Did you not watch the Clintons squirm last night? Hillary wants "change" in this country? What are you smoking Stunted? She voted for the war and wants to "obliterate Iran." You don't hear the singing because you are fucking DEAF.

  • Re:You're real brave sitting behind a computer

    You are the one who started insulting people, not me. I just got sick and tired of your shit. Care to say any of that to my face?

    You can argue that she didn't hold any political office canard all you want, but the fact remains is that she was also in the White House for eight years in the 90s, and she probably did what any other intelligent, interested person would do, she soaked up as much as she could.

  • @Stentor

    That post was supposed to be in favor of....what exactly? oh yea, you think you have more regard for Hilary.

    This has become a question of reality based policy that the Republicans so disparage. You jackasses who don't have a connection to reality can keep carping, but it only hurts your credibility. Believe it or not, given the Indiana primary, you can yap all you want, but when the most red state gives votes to Obama, things have changed. Sorry have some class.

  • Stentor

    The level of disrespect for Hillary has been unbelievable, all over the web, and not just here on Salon.

    If you'd like to make some attempt to justify Hillary's seemingly unjustifiable affiliations and positions, we would be delighted to see them.

    Let's see whatcha got. Ranting doesn't count.

  • Re:Smoking's bad for you

    Just because I'm a Democrat, does not make me a peace-loving, tie-dye wearing hippie. I say if Iran screws with us enough, then they deserve what they get. You're obviously too young to remember the way they treated us in the 70s under the Carter Administration. I was there for all 444 Days of the Iran Hostage Crisis, where were you? Running down your father's leg, no doubt.

  • Great Article

    Obama can't win in Nov? It is possible that Obama could win some southern states. I don't think Hillary would at this point. The higher general trend in the south is that the more African Americans, the more Republican the state (i.e., Mississippi) - nowhere do African Americans hold a majority. However, there is plenty of reason to believe that white, evangelical Republican turn-out will be down in the south, and African American turn-out way up if Obama were the nominee. McCain lost many of these states to Huckabee. Obama may have a shot here if they can commit the resources to generate a big turn-out in his base.

    I think many of the mountain states and high plains are potentially in play this year too. States like Arizona, Montana, and Colorado are more libertarian than conservative. Even states like South Dakota and Kansas seem to be shifting blue, particularly when it comes to the war in Iraq. Racism is also less of a factor in many of these states. McCain will win his home state, but may struggle in states out west that don't have a large Mormon population. His woes with evangelicals will hurt him here too.

    Even in the industrial midwest Obama has strength in states like Illinios and Wisconsin. The coasts will go Democratic no matter who the nominee. So I think Obama is electable. Hillary probably is too. They both can't run though, and it's getting to be time for someone to go home with a consolation prize.