Letters to the Editor
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Sisterhood seperatists
There's unity in cliques
To hell with the male species
A pox upon their dicks
Let us all shout the words
Of our eternal battle of the sexes endeavor
Matriarchy now! Matriarchy forever!
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who is hurting "the party"?
I just don't get it.
Having a prolongued primary is good for the dems, it allows it to get its ass in gear regarding gotv efforts, grass roots organizing, voter lists, etc. Training wheels. Practice. Something that hasn't happened much before in my experience.
And then there is the added dimension that (relatively) friendly competition between the candidates helps to hone their skills and put them in fighting condition.
I keep wondering, what would have happened in '04 if Kerry and Dean had to duke it out a while longer. Maybe the Dean Scream would've been exposed for the media manipulation fraud that it was and maybe Kerry could have found a way to articulate his thoughts better (not so sure about that).
All this talk about getting Hillary out of the race before she tears the party apart is just a lot of hysteria (dare I use that word) promoted by people who are afraid that Obama can't win.
Hillary is not tearing the party apart. Not sure I can say the same about Obama (whose commitment to the party is so far pretty weak) and dubious others like Brazile.
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Awwww, KateTex is offended. Poor widdle moopsiepooh
"...the plastic popup in billary's meaty thigh has popped."
So now she's a side of beef named 'billary'. And you expect me to show respect to your candidate? Don't hold your breath, bucko.
Riiiight! Because, up until now, you've been so very civil, and you always respond civilly when the person you're responding to shows you the same courtesy.
If you need to blame your vitriol and hatred and psychosis on some random person posting snark in their jockeys, by all means. Just don't delude yourself into thinking you're fooling anyone.
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Power
Hillary has shown she will do and say anything. She is now going to use Puerto Rico votes in her new matrixs. She and Bill want power. I hate to say it but it is possible that the republicans were right. That the Clintons will tear down everyone to be in power.
Black people stood by the Clintons when he went through hell with the conservatives and now the Clintons have thrown them under the bus. She is trying to do a "Sista Soulja" move to attract whites at the expense of losing blacks. But what is so funny is that everyone that is calling Rev. Wright a racist won't admit that Hillary is calling white people racist. She is saying that white people are not going to vote for him. She is the one who is flat out calling white blue collar workers dumb and racist. It is unbelievable. She is saying that the only people that are voting for Barack are elitist,progressive educated whites,blacks and Hispanics. Evidently, black people who went to college are not hard working,blue college people. The only demographic that black people fit into is the color black. How is she not pandering to the worst in Americans.
How many times can a Hillary and Bill bring up color and her supports say she is mispeaking or being misquoted? Keith Olbermann is killing her now.
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zero sum smith
nice straw woman, smithie, but the "pie" (an interesting choice of words in itself) is not finite, unless all you care about are material things. Maybe that's it. You're just like LeCastrata, only your thing is hate filled fallopian politics, while hers is pretension and acquisitiveness uber alles. Same jive, just different panties. Wad them as you will.
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@renegade
You are one nasty piece of work. You and the many thousands out there just like you in the blogosphere have put so many nails in Obama's political coffin, there'll be no opening that sucker ever again. I've said it before and I'll repeat it here: there's something terribly wrong with a candidate who attracts so many vicious supporters. I've never seen anything like this before and hopefully, we'll never see the likes of the Obama campaign again, because it has been - and continues to be - too downright ugly for words.
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@ micro ms: I like engaging with you. You're a smart writer. A bit of a challege. ;)
First of all, it was a speech, so I'm not sure you can start parsing commas. Secondly, I was focussed on the fact that she so neatly lumped all of these things together. Fear of the black man, fear of the uppity educated. At the same time, she gave it the glimmer of legitimacy. It's okay to vote by race! It's okay to dismiss those pesky educated experts! Go with your gut, damn the facts! To suggest she chose that phrasing by accident is to belittle how intelligent we both know she is.
Okay. What fears are you talking about?
No, I reject the notion that this is about uppity. I come from a working class background. I am the only person in my immediate family to get a college education and, when I did, the rejection was almost instant. Working class people often resent college educated people. It has nothing to do with race.
Now, what might be interesting to study is whether some white people might be more likely to vote against a black man who had overwhelming black support. I will give you that. That might be a factor. However, if it is, then it is a reality Obama needs to deal with if he wants to win. Clearly he cannot throw his black supporters off the bus. This is not Clinton's fault.
Yes, I agree that Clinton is arguing "gut issues" but I just don't think we agree on what those issues actually are.
I really didn't have a problem with Clinton herself until recently. It seems as though she lost the thread. In the heat of the battle, she's forgotten that there is more to this than just the fight itself.
Do you mean because she didn't graciously withdraw?
I suppose that one might decide that the massive shift of black voters to the Obama camp might smack of racism, but I watched as the Clintons, and in that case it was largely Bill, practically shoved them out the door with his comments.
His comments were taken out of context. Sure he should have been more cautious, but I don't believe he intended any racism by his comments. He talked about other candidates besides Jackson and how they had done in SC.
Should I also scream "agism" and "sexism" because of the older female demographic in Clinton's camp?
Only if you are prepared to do so while ignoring Clinton's more inclusive health care plan and her strong support of social security. There's nothing wrong with voting one's own best interests.
In reality, if they'd managed to muzzle Bill, they would've retained a for greater %.
I agree, but now he has been outsourced to small town America and he is effective once again.
At this point it seems as though Clinton has written off the black vote and is positioning herself with the Dixicrats in a last, final bid for votes.
What choice does she have if she wants to win? Are you saying that black voters would now shift to Clinton? Not likely. By default, she must woo white voters. That does not make her racist, anymore than Obama was racist when he wooed black voters.
Finally, I get the passion. I do. I feel for you and Show Me and the others who are so invested in Clinton, but I have to be honest with you, you have to stop talking down to the younger generation of feminists. You're losing them.
This argument began with younger women talking down to older feminists because they aren't eager to fall into Obama's camp now that it looks like Clinton will have more difficulty winning. It is true. It would take almost a miracle for her to win. However, that does not mean that Clinton supporters need automatically support Obama.
Frankly, I hope if Clinton does not get some concession from Obama on health care that she would make an independent run. I would vote for her.
While there are some young women out there who are truly clueless, you are dumping your vitriol on women who ARE feminists, and see the problems. You are cutting them out because they don't see it exactly your way.
I am holding their feet to the fire because I believe that they need to see that second wave feminism is more right than wrong and that third wave feminism is more wrong than right. Many of what we see of second wave feminism is actually backlash against feminism. Read Susan Faludi's Backlash. I have a 25 year old daughter. I believe an actual societal betrayal of feminism hurts young women far more than it does older women. Younger women will pay the price for that betrayal.