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What would it take for Clinton to concede defeat? An insider remembers -- and draws lessons from -- the backroom deals that ended another brutal, racially charged Democratic slugfest.
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  • Very good point...

    "The problem will be the ones who don't vote."

    That's the direction this trainwreck is heading.

  • I just so loved Clinton's tough ironhorse femenist plan

    To drop a big A-bomb on the Islamic Republic of Iran

    It made me feel so weak and diminished

    Like all sanity had been finished

    And there stood me, a little pawn of a mere man.

  • @CeliaInSF

    KStone did not use the word nigger as a slur. He named called no one. Instead, he presented it as a comparative to the word bitch. It is a little to PC-police to declare all use of words off limit. I early used the word cunt for clarity. I didn't call anyone a cunt and KStone didn't call anyone a nigger.

    I hope you don't listen to rap music. You might faint.

  • What took you so long?

    From AKA Smith:

    What do you think of the sexism of BryanS?

    Wow, didn't see that one coming...

    Smith, if I've ever said or done anything to make you think that I have no respect for you because you're a woman, please rest assured that that's not the case. In actuality, the reason that I have no respect for you is because you're a screechy, narrow-minded asshole who cries "sexism" the way bored shepherds cry "wolf."

  • Let the storm clouds of war burst!

    May women come always first!

  • @ TRenee

    AKA, I don't know why I keep engaging with you

    Because you clearly do not understand where I'm coming from.

    Maybe it's some sort of karma thing.

    No, I don't object. I think she'd do a much better job than Reid.

    Good that you thinks so because I don't think we need a senate leader who is antichoice.

  • @ AKA

    "Women first. I really believe that."

    Then you are chauvinist and a bigot and ultimately a detriment to the cause of feminism.

  • Or better I should say

    May Clintons always take the day!

  • Thankfully Smith's mental myopia is not contagious

    For were it so

    It'd be outragious.

  • @ CeliaInSF

    You do understand that the feminist movement is designed to provide equal rights for women. Are you thrall to the delusion that women have achieved equal rights. That's what I meant by women first. When women achieve equal rights then I will worry more about men. Until then, I don't intend to keep "my eyes on the guys" or their concerns. It is younger women who concern themselves with men's opinions. When I was younger, I too concerned myself more with what men thought until I realized that it was keeping me from fulfilling my own needs as a full human being.

    All you have proven by rejecting feminism and embracing on the spur of the moment the vague and meaningless "humanism" in this instance is to show that you were no real feminist in the first place.

    Have fun being a "chick up front" in the new revolution.

  • Thanks AKA but

    "I hope you don't listen to rap music. You might faint."

    I am not a weak vessel that needs your protecting. My feminism is about equality, diginity and the common humanity of all people.

    You know damn well KStone threw that in there to put the words Obama and the n-word together. you can't just us the hypothetical voice for that and then say I didn't say it.

    When I spoke about your writing skills I meant you should use your power for good. You can use it to rally people to your women first bigotry - that is your prerogative obviously but I would say it is a waste of a gift. But hey, people waste tehri gifts everyday- I won't (can't) stand in your way.

    And I'm not into the pc-word policing thing. That is the province of gender feminists and other authoritarians. I have decried that in my posts multiple times. Here I was just trying to point out the hypocrisy which still stands.

  • Vitriol ad infinitum

    Well, I for one thought long and hard about supporting Hillary, but Bill was acting like a nut job in the weeks up to my primary, and Barack's stance on net neutrality, the war and a few other things swung me over to his camp. I also just can't wrap my head around a "Bush, Clinton, Bush, Clinton" series of presidencies.

    That being said, I have defended Clinton against sexist remarks, and I've changed some minds about language usage while I was doing it, but every case I've seen has been a supporter, not Barack himself. I've seen "Claws come out" used against men and women, so I don't see that as inherently sexist. However, I've yet to see a single Clinton supporter step back from racist remarks (except the most offensive) made by either herself or her staff.

    Seriously, can anyone truly tell me that Clinton's "found how Sen. Obama's support among working, hard-working Americans, white Americans, is weakening again, and how whites in both states who had not completed college were supporting me." comment doesn't smack of both classism and racism? Apparently, the only hard working Americans out there are now those who are white without college educations. I wish I'd known that earlier. Here I've been busting my ass, when I should be lying around drinking cappucino or something.

  • @CeliaInSF

    "You know damn well KStone threw that in there to put the words Obama and the n-word together. you can't just us the hypothetical voice for that and then say I didn't say it."

    Um, KStone here. No, I did not. Apparently you have reading comprehension problems. AKA Smith's interpretation is correct.

  • @ CeliaInSF

    And I'm not into the pc-word policing thing.

    Yes, you are. You just proved it. KStone presented two perfectly parallel sentences, one using the word bitch and another using the word nigger. Neither you or BryanS want to address his point so you are using the accusation of racism to avoid actually commenting upon his point about sexism.

    Looking at the way people actually use words is useful. Name-calling is not -- unless you can subtantiate it with some proof.

  • AKA

    "When women achieve equal rights then I will worry more about men."

    This is utterly impossible! Ignoring the needs and concerns of the other of half the human race will not get you anywhere. This promted the need for feminism in the first place! And no, I don't buy into the idea that we have aachieved equality but I don't see how pitting groups of people against eachother will help attain that. Are men the enemy then?

    For goodness sake- I know I have my blindspots and weaknesses, I'm human. But I cn not understand how someone who is clearly so smart can be so blinkered to think 'women first' or anyone first for that matter.

    Maybe that is why you are so uncomforatble about Obama- assuming that everyone puts their identities above all else and wishes everyone else to go to hell? That is not the case. That is some people and it is a dangerous stance but thank heaven that is not everyone.

    Also, using anti-feminist jibes like your bros and hos and chicks up front, is really ugly. Just part of the chauvinism