Letters to the Editor
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I'm impressed
The really impressive thing about this discussion is the unanimity of Clinton's supporters (assuming they're really Hillary supporters and not dittohead trolls...which is probably a charitable assumption). I found only two cases in which someone professed to agree with the article's position using something approaching reason. The remainder are just attacks on those dreadful Obamabots, who have been mostly contributing reasonably (if not lyrically) throughout. Seems like there is hardly a Clinton supporter who can actually defend their candidate's position.
Following is a summary of the Clinton supporter's positions and this question: Can any of you honestly argue that you believe this is a good policy?
MCE007 - satirical genius is surprised Obama is wrong.
Wondrouswoman - Obama is beholding to the oil industry, and a liar.
ElectroRobot - Obama supporters are "pussies" and beware the dictator.
LeCastor - lawyer up. At least there's a point to the post. But WTF on the STFU!?
jebldmm - accuses Obama supporters of not reading the article...and proceeds to make no comment ON THE ARTICLE.
sonofloud - ...Obama started it!
AKA Smith - Obamabots and double standards...
lolcait - "I'll take the one who panders openly"
skylerdexter - talk of downstream benefits...trying...but adds all Obamabots are elitist Prius drivers who eat arugula...
ShawnWM - Obama has "pisspoor judgement" and would rather see McCain in office.
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talking point
"This is powerful criticism because it resonates with a long-standing talking point against Clinton -- that she is a political phony willing to do anything to get elected."
Just to clarify, this is not merely a manufactured talking point, but a conclusion many voters reached of their own accord after witnessing Senator Clinton's campaign.
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dumbest article i have ever read
If you honestly believe what you just wrote then you need to put down the crack pipe. This is TEXT BOOK political theater at its most obvious. Summer tax break on gas? ooohhh, you mean i might only pay 3.50 per gallon instead of 3.67? (most gas tax averages .17 cents nation wide) wow, thanks Hil, now i can buy my kid an extra happy meal a week. Wait, how about you get gas prices back down to below 2 dollars where they were less than 2 years ago. Oh thats right, supply and demand get it the way at 120+ for a barrel of crude.
Ok... so...
A. ever heard of George Bush? can you say veto? he can.
B. Did you forget how powerful big oil is? every year they are brought in front of congress to be pitched softball questions and receive a stern finger wagging about exhorbinant gas prices. Every year the price keeps going up. Even if they wanted to play charity, you know, for a 2 month stretch, they will just tax us on the back end. Corporate shuffle 101, save profits at all cost, especially at the consumer level.
C. is for Clinton. C is also for con-artist. I bet you a C note that she will scheme her way into the nominee spot despite the numbers, and that you will never hear about these gas taxes again.
D. So lets say that that there 304,016,220 people who live in this country. of that, lets be really modest and say that only 60% of that number actually has a car and fills up once a week. That gives us 182 million and change people driving around. the amount of gallons vary from car to car but for the sake of being modest lets just say all these people only have a 15 gallon tank. To be really fair to you and peter pan, lets go ahead and exclude all commerical frieght consumption while we are at it, to drive the point home. 15 gallons times .17 cents times 180 million people, multiplied by the 12 week summer is right about 5,508,000,000. thats trillions.
But wait a second yo! that thar is tax money, and tax money is the gift that keeps on giving. Economics says thar be multiplier effects yeilded from that revenue... or now thanks to saint hillary ... the lack there of since we get a "GOLLY GEE WIZ HOLIDAY!!! YAY!!!" the multiplier effect has as high as 3 to 5 times that 5.5 trillion dollar figure. 15 to 25 trillz and you expect BP to pay the bill? No, that wont happen. EVER. oh and snap we are totally in a RECESSION / Inflationary period whether people want to say it or not.
what sort of fantasy world are the two of you selling here? are we going to just 10's of trillions of dollars evaporate to save us poor folks at the pump? oh i would really love to think so, but in my world people get laid off for less, have their jobs outsourced to save a fraction of a penny in costs. that is the same world you live in too so you bet your G.D America skipping record she is pandering.
Politicians with nothing to lose and everything to gain, pander like a zombie on brains - thats not so unusual in an ever increasing election cycle, so saying she isnt makes your post seem naive.
PS. you are a dummy.
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After 22 years out of the US, a reader in Switzerland...
This entire issue is nonsensical. The price of gas over here in Switzerland is more than twice what it is in the US, and we're still the cheapest in Europe. What is needed are all-encompassing, radical steps, starting today, to start using less oil - and gas - in every area of life, and I do not mean turning to ethanol and starving the rest of the world.
The US, by putting its ingenuity and drive into - first and foremost!!- conservation, building and rebuilding infrastructure (house insulation), restructuring of eating and food supply habits, and constructing public transportation networks across the country, could manage to move into a new kind of lifestyle, create millions of new jobs, and regain the confidence and competence to move positively into the future. The challenge is huge, the issues formidable, but we must start now.
This insulting debate about a 'summer gas tax holiday' and business as usual will NOT help anyone over the short, middle or long term. Please, let's be realistic here and face up to the hard facts.