Letters to the Editor
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This just shows the bias at Salon
I have been reading Salon since the 1960s and Joan Walsh's pro-Clinton bias has bothered me since then!!11!!
I will never read Salon again!!!!11!!! GoBama!!!11!!
Whew, that's out of the way.
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Arrrrrrrrgggghhhh!
You millions of cult-worshipping morons are letting this clueless phony steal the nomination!
Okay, now the basics of the discussion are all covered.
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salon.com is pandering! Amazing!
Incredible! The gas tax holiday most certainly did NOT work in Illinois! Even Bill Clinton could tell you that -- at least once the primary's over.
And I agree with the previous poster: Joan Walsh has completely ruined salon.com.
Bet Glenn Greenwald is regretting he hitched his wagon to this outfit.
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Much Ado...
George, you've got too much time on your hands. By the time people finish digesting your article, summer will be past.
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Clinton is wrong
and is a pandering toad
flush this whole piece
right down the comode
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Hey George
Every economist in the country thinks your full of sh_t.
Joan, shame on you!
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Please Glenn
Please lead a mutiny against Joan!
Salon needs you!
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Obama is wrong - about just about everything.
Obama has a long history of pisspoor judgement ranging from his dirty associations (Resko,Axelman,Ayers,Wright,etc, etc, etc) to his policy which of what he hasn't "borrowed" from Mrs. Clinton is non-existant save for war grandstanding and voting for Cheney's energy bill.
And his lack of judgement is only surpassed by his sense of entitlement and that of his most vulgar supporters which he feels so strongly for he is very willing to divide the party and ensure a McCain win.
If his history has any weight, Obama Hussein and his loud-mouthed embarassing wife have long cared more for lining their own bank account than for anyone struggling at the gas pump or anywhere else.
Just the home he lived in and got from dirty associations while he was representing the most destitute of Chicago is in itself tellingly shameful of his character.
The more one sees of Obama the less there is to like. Scary to say but it truly is more comforting to think of the nation in the hands of John McCain which is saying a LOT from a lifelong Dem.
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Why not limit the amount of profits
the oil companies can make? (if that is really the problem) oh no that would be communist!
But call it a tax holiday and even republicans can embrace it! Tax holiday- gee that sounds like fun!
Of course the oil companies will pass on the savings! Keep on truckin.
Why is Hillary running on the Democratic ticket anyway?
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holy mackeral
Jeebus. How long before someone with a little clout and credibility says "wrong question, wrong answer"? How long?
Because this bullshit is just that. It's all bullshit.
Maybe Obama is simply calling Clinton out on an obvious pander. Maybe Obama pandered himself. There's a big, fat surprise. Does Mr. Frost think we all fell out of a vegetable truck yesterday? Jeebus.
Of *course* Obama has pandered in his career. How could he not? He knows a pander when he hears it, and just as Clinton is being a hack opportunist, Obama is calling her on it.
Even if Frost's analysis is largely correct (and I'll take leave to be dubious), the entire discussion makes my teeth hurt.
We're facing the end of oil. The end of cheap oil first, then the end of oil period. And soon. In most of our lifetimes. Most boomers will be in their dotage at the exact moment the bill really comes due, and a century of partying is followed by a tortured, violent hangover. If we're lucky, that's all it'll be. If we're unlucky....die-off.
And all our candidates can talk about is some fucking cents-on-the-gallon gas tax! Christ almighty. What is WRONG with everyone? Other than an addiction to pandering and/or grotesque ignorance about our actual situation.
I am so sick of this shit. Even if Obama engaged in the same pander 8 years ago, I'm glad he's calling Clinton out on this one. Even if he is, in his way, being as opportunistic as she is.
Lifting the gas tax for the Summer is not going to help. Even if Frost is right. It's like putting sand-bags up in front of your beach-front home as the water recedes before a 100-foot tsunami. It's bullshit.
and I am tired to death of this kind of bullshit. Just tired to death. And the fact that our MSM is shoveling it as fast as the candidates are just makes things worse.
I think the thing that bugs me the most is how obvious it is that Clinton and McCain are certain we are all a bunch of idiots. Barely sentient enough to tie our shoes. The savage contempt they show in their public statements to the Voters is enough to burn your eyes and induce nausea.
At least Obama doesn't display this level of cynical contempt. Maybe he feels it, but he hides it better.
Salon, you need to get Jay Hanson to write an essay for you. On the topic of fossil-fuels, yeast-population-curves, and die-off. It would be a suitable antidote to this pollyanna shit from guys like Frost.
www.dieoff.org
www.warsocialism.com
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Price Elasticity
Way back in the early 70's, just before the first gas crisis, I worked for a company that did a "Price Elasticity Study" for a major oil company.
The company arbitrarily raised gasoline prices by 5, 10, 15 cents per gallon at various stations.
The upshot was that sales didn't vary very much. About 90 days later we had the first oil crisis.... I guess it was just a coincidence...
Want to by some swamp land?
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Wow, what a crock
For the love of god, if you can't see that Clinton's gas tax holiday is nothing put pure political pandering jimmied up to get votes and nothing else, then you're not only a hack and shill for Clinton, you're a moron if you think we're buying it. Please, please, please.
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There IS a difference.
State sales taxes are collected at the point of sale. This makes the "tax holiday" scheme much more likely to work. The Federal gas tax is a manufacturer's excise tax collected during production. Reduction of this sort of tax is unlikely to be passed on to the consumer at anywhere near the lousy 60% found in the cited Illinois study.
If $50 over 3 months is a big deal to you your lifestyle and or transportation choices are incorrect. You can barely replace a battery or tire on your car for $50.
Obama is RIGHT about THIS gas tax.