Letters to the Editor
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oh those whacky typical white folks
I now live in San Francisco but I credit my 82 year old father with whatever ability I may have for tolerance, critical thinking and liberal ideals. He grew up on a family farm in the Midwest, struggled to finish High School while holding down a job to help support his family and lives with my mother in a very small town (where I grew up). They are both astute political thinkers in spite of getting most of their information from the local papers and TV news.
Well over ten or fifteen years ago I heard them express their fear and anger at the neo con evangelical political agenda as they saw it happening in their own back yard long before it hit national politics. They were bashing Bush earlier and harder than anyone I know here, in spite of living in a hard core Republican State (and being registered Republicans themselves). My parents are the most independent minded people I know, and they are more typical of rural America than urban progressives may realize.
Many of the "liberal elites" I know in SF are isolated and narrow minded by comparison.
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wow, is this representative of all clinton supproters on this site?
" don't have any any illusions that Hillary is any more of a salt-of-the-earth, small-town, regular-guy than Obama, but at least Hillary knows how to court those folks."
As long as you cna lie and propogate it's all good. Is this indicative of clinton supporter? Old style politics to a tee. Lie spin and discredit. A gop game, taht destoeryed america and it's values, we have built this great nation on.
Is this how old people think, or clinton supporters, or mid country people? Just for my enlightenment. Trying to project and I can't take these kind of statements (like crying to win a state like new hampshire) into account. does it only matter what you say, not who you are or what you do? Are words enough gop, I mean clinton supporters? If so, wow.
I can fly through the air without wings. I said it, it must be true.
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The way they are
Irony abounds if Obama loses the election based on the bitter comment. The voters would have rejected him because they are bitter about being bitter. A reader of American history would have known that Obama was refering to the nativist rural radical movements that have occurred periodically throughout this country. The Republican elite has cleverly commodified the sentiments by labeling the liberals as the oppressors by condensing the issues into the 3 Gs. Talk about god, guns and gays sets rural voters into a tizzy. For example, even though Ohio was in the midst of a major recession in 2004, John Kerry probably lost Ohio because of the increased turnout in rural areas to defeat the gay rights initiative on the ballot.
Right now Obama is comparable to a sales manager who is training his sales force on how represent him as a product. Obama was addressing his supporters on how to approach this type of rural voter. A good salesman manager knows his customer base so defining this type of voter is part of the sales process. An honest description is not an intentional slander.
As a minority city slicker I have had my white bosses tell me on several occasions that I could not sell to white rural people because my presence would offend them and I would hurt my company. My bosses came from rural areas or idenified with the populace.
Even though the family sustaining jobs have left rural areas as families are left without health care and pensions the populace votes Republican. The 3 Gs trumps rural job destroying free market captalism where labor arbitrage ships their jobs overseas. Yet they are not bitter because they have god and guns and there are no gays.
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rufus11
I want a Democratic nominee who will knock John McCain on his 72 year old keyster and reclaim the country from the ravages of the Bush years.
I don't really care if that candidate is Clinton or Obama. I just want to put the strongest Democrat up there, so we can reclaim our country from the idiots and incompetents who've been in charge for the last 8 years.
Right now, Obama is alienating people and Hillary looks like she has the common touch.
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Let's look at some other presidents
Every president in recent memory has created a persona as a "regular guy" rural or working class. Some were born into wealth with an impressive pedigree (the Bushes) and some were born into the middle class, but achieved wealth, fame and advanced education (Reagan, Clinton, Carter). None of these were regular working class guys. Yet we have Carter, the peanut farmer, Reagan riding on a horse, Bush Sr, the Texan, Clinton the small-town Bubba and Bush Jr. clearning brush from his ranch. The question is how can a black man portray a working class image without looking scary? We've come far enough that people would welcome a Dr. Cliff Huxtable in their homes, but not a Fred Sanford.
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Interviews on Fox
I just find it very funny that when Fox went to Allentown, PA, and interviewed 'the man in the street', two of those men said, "Bitter? Sure I'm bitter." So why don't the pundits just go away?
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clinton can't win gw
Even if she steals the nomination, she can't win. Obama is part of a movmeent fighting for america and it's idals/values. Clinton does not represent those of us fighting the gop for years on end. i am not a democrat. I am an independant. I consider myself anti-gop, or current gop. I am against everything the current gop stands for. Teh democratic party cANNOt say the same. Some IN the party can say they stood up against bush and the gop. Clinton pelosi di fi reid are not one of them.
1. Clinton can't win. Even if she steals the nomination, the tactics used will drop democratic representation to a 4th of what it is now. What will clinton do when her rush limbaugh freinds turn and vote mccain? do you relaly think those votes are "hers"? nope. She can't win. Botht eh right and the left dislike her, for their own reasons. The gop because of the past. the left because of the present, some of the past (iraq, not fighting with us, siding with the gop on all that matters).
2. Obama is alienating peoeple? I disagree. to most DEMOCRATS hillary is. of course if you are a republcain, watching what republcains watch, you may disagree. But we are trying to nominate a democratic nominee. The gop has their candidate. Why must they sabotage the "OPPOSITION" party? This is all gop sabotage, clinton's playing. She does her true parties work for them. Let's hope most americans are not dittoheads and can think fo rthemselves, unlike so many on this thread.
