Obama's been following the rules of the game and winning. Therefore, Clinton deserves to be ahead and Obama's an dishonest opportunist.

The problem is the system on the candidate. It seems what you expect out of the candidates only exists in fairyland. To expect ANY politician to severely handicap him/herself is idiotic. I suppose Obama should agree that caucuses are undemocratic and that the proportional primary system is a bad idea and Michigan should count even though his name wasn't on the ballot and Florida should hold a hasty (experimental for Florida) mail in primary.

If Clinton actually believed in playing by the rules Michigan possibly might have actually made a difference for her right now. And considering the possible damage that her actions could do to the Democratic party, it seems she's the opportunist that is indifferent to her Democratic principles.

Here's a hypothetical (since Sean Wilentz seems to love them so much): if these desperate arguments were never written down Sean Wilentz would have not lost any credibility.

Now there's a word we can all remember with fondness, it having lead us to smashing victories each time it's been applied. Except when we ran a tepid vanilla candidate who lost a race that could not be lost. Juvenal- sorry for me be the juvenile one with my lame spelling pun. Who in heaven's name would bet that it wouldn't come down to the stupor delegates? We've known that for months. My bet would be that Hill can't draw close to even with Obama in pledged delagates after the string runs out. And the Jayhawks just got one amazing clutch three pointer with 2.1 to play. That hardly an analogy for Clinton's position, which is not mathematically eliminated, but a long shot. Check the Vegas odds. Let's go with them.

Somebody has finally written an excellent reality check about Hillary Clinton's electability concerning the only measure that counts- electoral votes in the actual presidential race. How's this... Hillary wins all the Blue States that Kerry won in 2004(251) and then wins OHIO(20). Bingo! 271 is exactly the number of electoral votes that Bush got in 2000 after he and his brother stole Florida.Hillary does not even have to win Florida, but we could throw in Arkansas(5) which her husband won both times he ran. My fear is that once again the Democratic Convention will nominate someone who cannot beat McCain in Pennsylania, Ohio and Florida. I have voted over a 40 year period for the Democratic nominee that the conventions gave me. I have won twice(two times out of ten elections!) Now, the Democrats are going to do it again.

Tom - Specifically what do you wish to wager? My bet is that neither horse can make it across the finish line without the help of the supers. My point across multiple posts has been that the DNC rules didn't contemplate the current scenario happening. Superdelegates weren't intended to decide the nomination...now they'll have to .

You're apparently trolling these posts looking to pick a fight with whomever comes along. Spelling be-damned, as you try to twist my monicker into something it isn't. Good for you.

Let me remind you that in the last 2 minutes Kansas did the improbable. And Obama's lead is slimmer than Memphis'...

Obama has specifically said he has no problem with Hillary beating herself bloody against a brick wall if that's what gets her off. In the basketball analogy, for her to win, she need to steal six consecutive inbounds passes, hit a half court shot every time and be fouled in the process, and hit the free throws. Could happen. My hair might grown back in, too,but I shan't hold my breath. I suggest you not either. But it's your breath, so knock yourself. Try this: look at all the remaining states/territories. Assume she wins all of them 65-35. Then, you get close to a tie. Will that happen? Wanna bet?

Pardon my presumption. genitalia rarely show on forums. I presumed, perhaps falsely, that the macho aggression, the 'tude, the "you lookin' at ME?" vibe, seemed masculine. You know us men: pugnacious pigs. I do owe the state of Texas, or at least the town of Austin, a great debt, since what I consider to be the best guitars made now, or probably ever, are made there. And I loved Molly Ivins, and find Kinky Friedman amusing. As I"ve posted before, I do not hold the state of Texas responsible for Bush- he's a Connecticut preppy prick and a wiener warmonger. So, I guess I really have no bone to pick with you in particular- unless it's a properly cooked rack of baby backs. I've worked out a recipe that make grown men and women weep with joy. My quarrel is only with the Klinton Kamp, their bloated entitlement, their perpetual whining, serial lying, and Personality of the Week campaign style. It's like chatty fookin' Hillary. Oh, and I love Gatemouth Brown and Steve Ray and other Texas blues cats too numerous to mention. So there. tom

I won't go into the apparent need to legitimize your comments by using a signature with academic credentials.

It's amusing that you chose the NCAA game analogy for your argument. Allow me provide another perspective. Being unable to cross the finish line, Obama is essentially asking that the game be stopped after just 38 minutes. "I'm ahead, so let's just end the game now. Where's my crown and scepter?"

A contrast, if I might: where I am, in your deathless and fragmented prose, not fit to suck, you, my darling Booger, are, and do, incessantly. When do you have time to breathe in? The Klintoonians have always been specialists at blowing.

You are aware, aren't you, that Hillary Clinton agreed ahead of time _NOT_ to count Michigan and Florida?? Simultaneously, you are aware, aren't you, that if Michigan and Florida had stayed where they were before they moved up their primary dates that the results would have been significantly different? As anyone can see, when Obama actually has the time to campaign in a state, the poll numbers change dramatically in his favor.

So, to you, you count states nobody campaigned in (and, btw, throwing in a completely legal bit of national advertising that hit Florida by Obama is typical of the type of whining that I've come to expect from Clinton apologists), change the rules of what a primary is, and whine about a 1/2 dozen other things and suddenly Clinton is ahead.

How frigging annoying. And, yet another reason that I went from Edwards to Obama instead of Clinton. I cannot take the whining.