Letters to the Editor
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I'm beginning to think
That all those people claiming to not know what issues Obama stands for (except change) are just super lazy. Or illiterate.
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REBECCA: I CAN MAKE THIS EASY FOR YOU
First, eliminate the "identity" considerations. It would be just as shitty of you to vote for Hillary because she's a woman as it would be for me to vote for John McCain because he's a white guy. Or for blacks to vote for Obama just because he's black.
Because you don't seem too concerned by any minor policy differences between the two, that leaves the respective approaches of Obama and Hillary. You seem to want to be a part of ObamaNation, and are capable of being moved by Obama's promise. At the same time, you also seem to acknowledge Hillary's mistakes and, though you didn't mention it, you were likely (hopefully) offended by the Clintons dirty politics after New Hampshire in S. Carolina, and that spectacle in Florida.
In other words, it sounds like you want to support Obama, but feel obliged to vote for Hillary solely because she's a woman. To me, it sounds like the choice has been made, unless you think it's okay for white guys to vote only for white guys because they're white guys. The end.
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@ALden - wrong McCain will hand him his you know what.
And I realized that the President who takes office in 2009 will either be McCain or Obama. So I'm voting for Obama. He's a good man, but more than that, he's the only remaining Dem who will beat McCain. The Republicans have (all but) chosen their general for the Clinton Wars. So let's not re-fight those wars. Let's give them a new one.
The nerve of you. What proof of any scientific (political science) can you point to other than your emotions that Obama can beat McCain. He can't. McCain will win in a landslide. Obama has everything against him to NOT pick up states Kerry and Gore lost: "soft on defense", Kennedy and every liberal giant endorsement, the endorsement of "pro-abortion" rights groups, a recently calculated "most Liberal Senator" title and a whole slew of closet skeletons just beginning to surface.. or rather the press is waiting to unleash them once HRC is out of the way.
Since switching from Edwards to Obama, I've been kind of surprised to discover how many Republicans in my suburban red-state world still hate Hillary but turn out to prefer Obama to McCain.
Rigggggggggght. It was those Kennedy endorsements that won over your anecdotal neighbors.
Actually until Obama and Oprah put on their pony show and race wars to divide the Democratic vote at the advice of Karl Rove (ie win the battle and lose the war), HRC was leading double digits in Kentucky, Ohio, Colorado, New Mexico and Arizona because she isn't viewed as overly liberal and people remember when she was in the Whitehouse there were actually fkg jobs.
It may not be rational, but there it is.
You're right. It isn't.
Hillary will go on to a long and distinguished Senate career that will arguably be more influential on US policy than a Hillary Presidency would have been. There are no losers here -- unless we decline to take this tide of New Obama Democrats at its flood.
Nonsense. The losers, big losers will be the American people, people trying to retire, people struggling to stay in the middle class, the long-term unemployed, young people who if these staggering deficits continue will find themelves paying a lifetime of high taxes just servicing debt and NEVER being able to retire, double if not triple the number of uninsured. STacks and stacks of rightwing judicary appointments. Pro-corporation and anti-worker legistlation by the scorefold. And much more.
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Rigghhhhhhhhht
You seem to want to be a part of ObamaNation, and are capable of being moved by Obama's promise. At the same time, you also seem to acknowledge Hillary's mistakes and, though you didn't mention it, you were likely (hopefully) offended by the Clintons dirty politics after New Hampshire in S. Carolina, and that spectacle in Florida.
but no offense taken at Obama accusing Hillary of causing a Prime Ministers assasination, bald-faced and unabashedly accusing (of all folks) the Clintons of being racist and playing the race card in SC.
Not to mention lying about her record, her health care campaign ad accepting free helpful advice from Republican strategists ... and of course Republican trolls that like to post transparent letters on salon urging liberals to vote for the Saint over the Demon.
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thx for writing this
i thought I was the only one thinking this...
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I'm not undecided anymore.
I spent a few years idealizing Obama... I was one of those Dems excitedly awaiting "our future president" as he took the podium to give the keynote speech in '04.
But as I've "gotten to know him" lately, I've seen him very differently. I see a petty, dishonest, manipulative and mean-spirited person who--like the Republicans--is happy to swift-boat anyone who gets in his way.
I also see someone who talks a good game, but has nothing concrete to back it up... basically style over substance.
I see someone who is trying to suggest to casual observers (most of whom only start paying attention at election time) that he voted against the war, when he did not in fact even have the opportunity to do so.
I see a divisive person who is subtly encouraging his supporters to either take themselves out of the process or vote Republican as "revenge" if he doesn't win the nomination.
I see a candidate peddling hollow promises, vague platitudes and pretty prose in place of detailed plans and policies.
I see a dishonest man, not above deliberately advancing false characterizations of both his opponent's record and his own.
I do not like what I see.
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White women in America have never suffered the indignities people of color have suffered.
After reading Ms. Traister's narrative on whom she should vote for I am glad I am black woman. When I see Hillary Clinton I don't see myself, I don't see her representing my interests. I went to college with the Hillaries of the world and know what their about. Hillary is a phony she'll say anything or do anything to get ahead. She's so obsessed with proving that she's as good as any man she forgets how to be a woman. Except when it comes to being a doormat for husband's sexual proclivities. White women have never endured the indignities or hatred that people of African descent have suffered. Especially upper class white women, they had their well-heeled husbands to protect them. Black women never had such protections. We have always had to work as hard as any man. The moment black women stepped off the slave ships we were multitasking. Working full time, taking master's children as well as own. Having two sets of children, master's and our bonded brothers. We cared , loved and worked hard for all them. So no when I see Hillary I don't see me. There is no wavering on whom I will vote for, I am voting for the BROTHRER !!!!!!!