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Sunday, Nov 8, 2009
Sorry to be a pain in the ass, but your contention that simulated drowning is not drowning because "in drowning you die"is medically incorrect. One may or may not survive drowning. We tend to think of drowning victims as dead people because that is how they are treated in the media, but the fact is anyone who has gone under, filled up and stopped breathing, has drowned. If he is resuscitated he is the survivor of a drowning. Same as with cardiac arrest. It's not called something different if the patient survives the incident.
The point is not to talk over you but to explain -- as vividly as I can -- that drowning is torture whether you survive it or not, and waterboarding is drowning, whether the victim dies or not. "Simulation" is merely a way for the torture advocate to make this particularly onerous form of torture seem less horrible than it is.
Much of the initial coverage about Fort Hood turned out to be wrong. Is there anything wrong with that?
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