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Sunday, Nov 8, 2009
uh, Mr. Mustard.
Anyway, thanks for your post. I am actually very much pro-losing weight! I'm in the process of doing it and feel great! I am just against people making stupid, angry, bitter, and vicious and illogical statements, and making people feel that no matter what effort they put out, it isn't good enough. Anyway, enough for now...I'll go back over your post later. Have a nice evening.
so we can tell you apart from all the other "anonymous" posters. You seem thoughtful and non-troll-like, even if we disagree on the substance.
Debra Dickerson might do better to explore why fat is more acceptable among Latinos and African-Americans for two reasons. First, White Americans could use an attitude adjustment and learn something. Jordin Sparks and even Lakisha are probably healthier than your average thin-through-eating-disorder white woman.
Of course, healthy eating and exercise are optimum, but that brings me to my second point. African Americans and Latinos are disproportionately poor. 1 in 4 African-Americans and 1 in 5 Latinos live in poverty. Poverty limits your food choices. Vegetable and fruits are much more expensive than starches such as potatoes, rice and pasta. Note that beans and rice are mainstay dishes in soul and latino foods. Why? Because they are inexpensive foods. Both red beans and rice and mexican beans and rice are seasoned with pork -- why? because it's the least expensive meat.
Tucker Carlson recently ridiculed the idea that the poor were going hungry because they are all so fat. The voice of someone who has never struggled financially in his life. Recently four Representatives, three Democrats and one Republican, lived on the average food stamp budget for one week. All reported difficulty in eating healthy foods, lassitude from the lack of nutritious meals and other difficulties.
For $1.00 you can make an egg pudding and feed four. To do that with fish and steamed vegetables would take 8 times as much. It is white's relative affluence that even allows the thin aesthetic and I wish Dickerson had taken the role poverty plays in body size and food choices before getting all judgmental.
If you want to improve the discourse around here and discourage 'anonymous' postings, you might want to raise the bar your own selves.
Reality you say that you are against people making stupid, angry, bitter, and vicious and illogical statements - but over three posts you call someone a 'retard', 'asshole' and 'misanthrope'. It's not exactly productive - and point the finger all you want at how he/they deserved it..when you talk like that you deserve no better. Same with Necessitator - calling people chickenshit because they post differently than you? Why carry the argument into personal territory? My anonymity in no way impacts the validity or lack thereof of you, my or anyone else's arguments.
It's a touchy subject, no doubt about it. But there's an awful lot of ugly self-righteousness going on, and a distinct lack of civility.
Mr. Mustard
how about you deal with, or ignore, the content and don't worry about the source.
if there is a "personality", even a fake one, attached to any information then the information becomes subordinate, in the minds of most people, to whether they think the "personality" in question is nice, or not nice, or on their side, or not. If you want the discussion to consists of 90% conventional bromides/pieties (what qualifies as these varies with the venue) or elaborate begging to be allowed to deviate from the above (or hysterical responses to the failure to do sufficient preparation for telling anyone what they don't want to hear) then by all means get rid on anonymous posting.
I myself often feel brought down to an ugly level by some of the other posters. However, although you can't do so for fat family/nonsensical Anonymous, Mr. Mustard, I would recommend you click on Ben Dover's letters and spend about ten minutes reading them before you judge how people should react to him. Although, granted, he is amusing in a warped way, you will also see what it's like arguing on a rational level with someone who's entirely irrational. And fat family Anonymous has said some pretty ridiculous, inflammatory things as well--I suppose we can just ignore both of them, or even not read the letters...it's too bad for other people who actually put effort into being thoughtful and not lying their ass off. Are you happy with this? I guarantee you would not get this kind of acknowledgment from your average troll here. Cheers!
As Dr. Necessitor said, by picking a screen name you are not being required to give out sensitive info on yourself, and I doubt the tone of an argument is what influences people to just check the "Anonymous" box rather than go through the simple process of registering a name...I think it's laziness for the most part...especially if you plan on coming back to the debate repeatedly, I do agree that it is a copout as well not to come up with a singular name you can stand behind with pride, and cut down on the confusion...believe me, I don't lose any sleep worrying over trolls knowing my "name" and to me that as an excuse isn't that convincing.
know how ignorant you are.
I failed to get MBAs from either Yale or Princeton, much less the both of them
sigh...I'm only encouraging him, right? :-)
Everyone knows who you are. Say what ever you feel like--posting here and constantly rebutting the opinions of someone who writes, ""Reality didn't realize that cheating on her labrador retriever with a power tool will scar him for life" while claiming that I'm illogical and childish really is a huge waste of time. Maybe I'll be back some other time but it is probably better if I do the IGNORE thing completely for now. Ciao!
Mr. Mustard said another poster challened the commenters to "say something about losing weight she hadn't heard before, and do so without making her feel ashamed, disgusted or unhappy"
I struggle with my weight and I think I can do so.
It's fun to work out. After you get a routine going and demand that it not get squeezed out of your schedule, no matter what anyone else thinks, no matter what you had to eat or what anyone else thinks of it, no matter if you got invited to too many parties in a row and had too much good food, good drinks, and good time with your friends, no matter if you eat because you're social and it's fun and your guard comes down when you're with your circle of friends or why, no matter if you have the latest and cutest workout gear or an old T-shirt and shorts, no matter if you pay for a gym or hit the trail outdoors, no matter if you listen to audiobooks or hiphop or techno or that evil caterwauling with female singers called pop, no matter if you read a magazine on the machines or take a class or watch TV while doing the treadmill or the rowing machine, it's fun to work out. It feels good. After a while it's more and more fun and feels better and better. It feels good even if it weren't about using calories. It feels good because it's also about de-stressing and time for YOU.
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